Author Topic: Modified collector plates? (Read 4031 times)

josh · « **on:** May 13, 2014, 10:09:23 AM »

Anybody jumped through the hoops to get modified collector plates for their pre 58 car? I dont think ill be wanting to drive my car to work and leave it to get shit on by seagulls and having it insured year round for under $300 sounds kinda awesome.....plus the black and white plates suit a vintage car waaay better!

Wondering if anybody has any tips or advise to make the whole process easier to get through? I just printed off the forms this am, looks quite involved?

Cheers josh

vwshawn · « **Reply #1 on:** May 13, 2014, 11:36:51 AM »

Hi Josh, while I don't have modified collector plates, I do have collector plates
On my car. I recommend just following the instructions from ICBC, and make sure to have your car professionally appraised, get declared value insurance from Hagerty
www.hagerty.ca

Thomas · « **Reply #2 on:** May 13, 2014, 11:54:50 AM »

Josh I did it last year. You can give me a call at 604-762-4065 and I can tell you about it. It's no big deal to do.

josh · « **Reply #3 on:** May 13, 2014, 01:30:15 PM »

Right on, ive been researching it all morning and only thing that has me concerned is having to drag the car through a VI....I was stoked to find out my car was still in the system and didnt require a provincial...not that im worried about it passing or not but last one I had to get on my 57 had me sweating bullets!

Couldnt find a shop that would do a vw here and ended up at Cambodian tire, I know I know! he wouldnt let me drive it up on the lift and insisted that part of the inspection was the mechanic driving it? You kinda gotta know whats up to climb behind the wheel of a 200hp NA dub.....2 stage/4 puck is a bit of a switch and I was envisioning my baby being launched off the hoist!

The 55 is 10x the car and im just a little over protectively anal about it

mitchy965 · « **Reply #4 on:** May 13, 2014, 05:08:50 PM »

ah... whats a modified plate? i know about the collectors plate and am sure my car would not qualify as it has noticeable mods. does anyone here actually have one and know whats allowed?

josh · « **Reply #5 on:** May 13, 2014, 06:01:03 PM »

Ya they pretty sticky about the stock ones.....basically same rules as condition but mods are allowed

http://www.icbc.com/vehicle-registration/collector-mods/Pages/Modified-collector-vehicles.aspx

mitchy965 · « **Reply #6 on:** May 13, 2014, 08:52:38 PM »

hey thanks,didn't know of this plate til now.still out however as its a 67 which is so very vastly different from a 58.

Jeremy · « **Reply #7 on:** May 13, 2014, 10:36:25 PM »

Josh. How are you going to get around the heat and defrost issue?

steveo_32 · « **Reply #8 on:** May 14, 2014, 11:41:05 AM »

you do not need heat, u need defrost.... plug a cheap electric fan and aim at window, that passes and i have used it before.

Jeremy · « **Reply #9 on:** May 14, 2014, 12:07:49 PM »

Good to know.

josh · « **Reply #10 on:** May 14, 2014, 12:15:50 PM »

That didnt get picked up when I took my 57 through....definitely didnt have defrost in that one either.

Steve, did what you speak of have a heater built in or just the fan moving air good enough?

Thomas · « **Reply #11 on:** May 14, 2014, 01:07:25 PM »

No heat or defrost and mine passed.

Thomas · « **Reply #12 on:** May 14, 2014, 01:11:55 PM »

Josh the biggest problem is the value and havings bills to back it up. Like most of us we do your own work and pay cash for lots of our parts. ICBC is going to want a value and if you go privite for the coverage they are going to base the cost of insurance based on your value.

bwaz · « **Reply #13 on:** May 14, 2014, 02:06:55 PM »

I think a good person doing a valuation will cost you @$300, I know Hagerty wanted one to give you real replacement value coverage....

Jeremy · « **Reply #14 on:** May 14, 2014, 02:55:32 PM »

Quote from: Thomas on May 14, 2014, 01:07:25 PM

No heat or defrost and mine passed.

Shit. Really. I have been putting this off because of that.

Did you take it through at the regular ride height or did you raise it up for inspection?

pittwagen · « **Reply #15 on:** May 14, 2014, 03:22:09 PM »

Where does it say in the BC Motor Vehicle Act Regulations that a heater or defroster is required?

bwaz · « **Reply #16 on:** May 14, 2014, 03:34:33 PM »

although it says for a windshield wiper, they may twist it...

(3) A motor vehicle other than a motorcycle equipped with a windshield shall also be equipped with a device which is effective for clearing rain, snow or other moisture from the windshield.

josh · « **Reply #17 on:** May 14, 2014, 03:40:05 PM »

I'd argue that was talking about wipers!

I had minimal bills for my 57 when I wrote it off, all parts no labour. No appraisal, ICBC hired a 3rd party to do one and it came it very much in my favour...in the end I walked away happy.
I think I still have the name of the guy, ill have to look.

On the VI I really think its all about who you get and how they interperet the rules......sucks but can also work in favour somtimes

Thomas · « **Reply #18 on:** May 14, 2014, 03:49:56 PM »

Did you take it through at the regular ride height or did you raise it up for inspection?

I took it lowered.

Josh I think it is true to the fact it just depends who you get and that you are reasonable about the value. ICBC was OK with the value I put in after I explained the work done without bills. Hagerty also was OK with the value I put down even without an appraisal of the car.

pittwagen · « **Reply #19 on:** May 14, 2014, 03:52:59 PM »

The Regs are very general. I called CVSE in Victoria which oversees the program and the inspectors.

Section 8-14 of the inspection manual says the defroster has to operate as it was originally intended (I'm paraphrasing). If a defroster was not originally manufactured into the vehicle (my buggy) none is required but the Regs still apply in that anything on the windshield may not impede the vision of the driver. A fan that provides the same effect may be ok. There appears to be some subjectivity on the inspector's part in determining adequate airflow.

purple turd · « **Reply #20 on:** May 14, 2014, 08:32:15 PM »

On a stock car it can be failed for a tear in the seat or a missing knob on the window crank. Its almost not worth being in the designated inspection facility world. Makes rule followers look like jackasses for being accurate

bwaz · « **Reply #21 on:** May 15, 2014, 08:26:58 AM »

isn't the inspection just for safety items, not a pick apart on a tear? I thought the photos you sent in were the final determining factor on whether you got plates or not?

josh · « **Reply #22 on:** May 15, 2014, 01:03:20 PM »

Says you have to have a current saftey insp. Done on it first.

Just one more way for them to line their pockets.

Bruce · « **Reply #23 on:** May 24, 2014, 04:29:23 PM »

Quote from: purple turd on May 14, 2014, 08:32:15 PM

On a stock car it can be failed for a tear in the seat or a missing knob on the window crank.

The window crank is required so that you can whip the window down to signal if your indicator lights go out. If the inspector fails you for a broken window crank on the right side, he's a ignorant dick.
I had the inspector at C tire tell me a tear in the headliner is a fail. Again, an ignorant dick. The requirement is that the headliner can't be shreaded so that it hangs down obscuring your vision anywhere.