Has anyone ever used this engine kit

[blarneyman]

Thinking about building a motor for my bug. I'm new at engines so be gentle with me (but honest)
http://www2.cip1.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=C15%2D2027%2D1

My reasons for thinking this way. I like the stability of a stock 1600 and this is as close (proportionately) while going bigger.

[Bruce]

That's quite a big step from a stock engine!

There's one item in that kit that is fatal, IMO.  That is the Scat lifters.  Do not use them.  If you buy the kit, sell those lifters.

I would not use the pushrod tubes they supply.  Use stock type tubes.

[buggal]

I agree, and the cylinders are not the best either. They are thin walled and have more possibility of deforming.
There's a good article on building your own engine here:

 http://www.aircooled.net/gnrlsite/resource/articles/t1hpeng.htm

Building an engine is fun. Go slow and keep it CLEAN.

[blarneyman]

Any suggestions on a solid long life motor with a fair amount of pop to it? Wasn't aware of the thin walled jugs. I was reading about some of these motors getting hot easily. Don't want to go that route if I can avoid it.

[Bruce]

... the cylinders are not the best either. They are thin walled and have more possibility of deforming.

I think you're mistaking the cylinders in that kit for 92s.  The 90.5s are not "thin walled".

[buggal]

You're right. That's why I included that link. It is a very good article.   

[blue bus]

If you have the dough you might want to try one of Jake Raby's kits

[blarneyman]

If you have the dough you might want to try one of Jake Raby's kits

That's out of the question. At this point I'm looking at building one because I can't afford to buy a turn-key.

[GMB]

Hey Blarney check out my "Crate Engines" at CIP. I have designed these for reliability and longevity. just pick your displacement 1600, 1914 or 2276. completely brand new nothing used or rebuilt. built by Scat exclusivly for CIP.

@$3499 I think the 1914 long block, already assembled, would be right up your alley!

http://www2.cip1.com/SearchResults.asp?Cat=1272

Gary

[kirin]

can you tell me what kinda lifters you use? i have heard not so great things about scat lifters...

[Bubba]

If you have the dough you might want to try one of Jake Raby's kits

Jake will not be taking kit orders again until November 2011, with delivery Feb. 2012.

He will have 6 kits available then, and those will be the year's allotment.

His turnkey engine cost is around 2-3 times the kit cost, and you can probably get it delivered within a year.

[dwvw]

Has anyone used the CB Performance kits?
http://www.cbperformance.com/catalog.asp?ProductID=1781

[GMB]

Hey Kirin These "Crate Engines" use Scat lifters. I have been selling "my formula" Scat engines (1914cc and 2275cc) for years now and have never had a problem with lifters.

We have just focused this formula into a marketable product and instead of offering every combo in the world (very confusing for Customers) it's been my opinion for a while now that there are really only 2 engine sizes worth building.

1914cc just because the barrel thickness is almost as thick as the 90.5s and it is the biggest engine you can build on a 69 crank. This engine with 1.1:1 rockers works well with a re-jetted 34mm pict carb and a 4 into 1 header.

2275cc this is just a stroked out 1914 using an 82 stroke crank. If put together for street daily driver use the 2275, using the "B" style stroker pistons, is the same width as a 1600 wich with a set of single HD valve springs allows the use of stock aluminum pushrods as well!

All Our crate engines have the same cam shaft in them and are set up for daily driving street or offroad use.

Gary.

[Darren]

If you have the dough you might want to try one of Jake Raby's kits

Jake will not be taking kit orders again until November 2011, with delivery Feb. 2012.

He will have 6 kits available then, and those will be the year's allotment.

His turnkey engine cost is around 2-3 times the kit cost, and you can probably get it delivered within a year.

2-3 Times the cost is that accurate?  so if the 1914 kit is roughly 3K then you are looking at 6-9K for a turn key?
That is just crazy..... I should raise my prices I guess.......

[Bubba]

If you have the dough you might want to try one of Jake Raby's kits

Jake will not be taking kit orders again until November 2011, with delivery Feb. 2012.

He will have 6 kits available then, and those will be the year's allotment.

His turnkey engine cost is around 2-3 times the kit cost, and you can probably get it delivered within a year.

2-3 Times the cost is that accurate?  so if the 1914 kit is roughly 3K then you are looking at 6-9K for a turn key?
That is just crazy..... I should raise my prices I guess.......

His kits are between 5 and 6k without prep, but balancing included, provided you have useable cores.  From what he says on his site, turnkey engines are 12k and up.  He currently has an 8 month backlog on turnkey engines.

[Geoff]

This is Jake Raby he's talking about, his t4 engines turn key are $$$$ due to all the custom exhaust and add ons he dose. I don't agree with his prices but I do know he charges$$$$

[Darren]

one should shop around some more....... those prices are crazy..............

I could do a full custom 2387 Dual throttle bodies, EFI with Stainless exhaust, complete turn key all new ( no cores needed ) installed and tuned for well under 10K....