Fuck.. Well.. Need A Good Paint Shop

[piercedvw]

Ok.. Fuck Fuck FUck...... Got that out of my system...

My truck got dropped off.. My NEW paint.. Is RUINED.

 I need to get two quotes to get the claim going.  Names of someone that could come out to Coq. to do an estimate would be a bonus.

 I need this asap.



FUck.

[red snapper]

Give Stefan a call @ Rudy Feeg. Im sure you could sweet-talk him to come out there. 590 4409.

[piercedvw]

Thanks Brian...... and Stephen    

[Mowser]

Please explain!  How'd it happen and what happened?

[piercedvw]

The driver was instructed to tarp (which he did... kinda).. But also to WATCH and CHECK the tarp and to call me if there were any problems... which he didn't. When it got here, the tarp was litterly hanging off and pretty much disintegrated.. Huge gouges and scratches where the bungees wore though and smacked against the truck cab.
 Issue was I booked the transport through Searail... But as I find out NOW... they hired a third party to do the actual transport.. Not only was she delayed in transport and had to sit in a compound in Merrit all weekend, but the message CLEARLY didn't get to the driver.
 I spent nearly an hour trying to find out where it was when I got a call from some company in Vancouver asking if my truck was ready to PICKUP in Coq!!!!!! WTF!!!!

 Long story short.. Searail is now claiming they take no responsabilty for vintage vehicles and I'm now working through ICBC. They're investigating both companies.

 I'm going over her right now and will post pictures later.

[Stephan Schmidt]

I hope everything gets sorted out alright.  I would suggest (as you are probably already doing) to get as much info on the going price for these early double cab VW trucks.  Get prices from thesamba, hemmings, traderonline, etc.. to back up the fact that the truck is worth some good money.

All the best,

Stephan

[piercedvw]

All I can say is... It could be worse.. It's just paint.  Gotta think positive.  No damage loading / unloading, etc...

Though.. This DEFINALTY won't be left alone.  

Working on cleaning her up, and making a shopping list of things I need to get done.

I'd still love input as to who I can get to do paint.
  .. I'll prob end up getting my gates and some other parts done at the same time.

[BUSDADDY]

Sorry to hear you got bit by the dumbshit factor  but hey, look at the bright side, at least now you can see what the original color was. :wacko:  

[driverfound269]

If this is a established company they should have cargo insurance....sue there asses off!!!

[Bubba]

I would not put up with that bullshit.  It doesn't matter if it was a NEW car or a vintage,  they are giving you the run around.  Did you sign a contract with plain language stating this clause?  Tell them what you want and then pay a lawyer 200.00 to send a letter saying that you are going to sue the whole bloody works of them.  That will get thier attention.

Assholes.

Csaba

[Bruce]

 Long story short.. Searail is now claiming they take no responsabilty for vintage vehicles and I'm now working through ICBC. They're investigating both companies.

 

If you had ICBC coverage, they will take care of it for you.

[kirin]

ICBC shouldn't have to cover it. The insurance company for the transport company(Which every towing and hauling company should have) should have to pay for it. If not I would seriously nail their ass to the wall.
Sorry to hear about that T. I will talk to my body guy and see if he has a soft spot for another DC...

[Chris]

ICBC should cover it, if they are your insurance provider, it is there responsibility to go after the party at fault and associated insurance companies. Did you have insurance on the vehicle in your name?

[68IIIbuggy]

Just a question: does your basic ICBC insurance cover this type of thing? Or would it only be covered if you had comprehensive? I've always wondered.

[kirin]

In a previous post she mentioned that she had it all transferred over to her name and plated..

But as mentioned. The hauler/shipper is responsible for the vehicle on route. If they damage it they are held liable for it. It seems rather clear in my eyes.

ICBC should help...
I think

[moni]

But as mentioned. The hauler/shipper is responsible for the vehicle on route. If they damage it they are held liable for it. It seems rather clear in my eyes.

kirin, no offence, but you've got the basic principles of insurance all wrong.

true, the hauler-shipper is responsible, but the person who is making a claim doesn't go directly after company at fault and/or their insurance provider. the claimant applies to their own insurance provider to cover the costs -- and said insurance provider goes after the dumbass who wrecked the car in the first place.

it's like if some drunk driver plows into your house and smashes through the front window. as a homeowner, you don't chase after ICBC, who covered the drunkard, to pay for the cost of the window. you go to your home insurance provider, file a claim, and the home insurance provider then bills ICBC for the money...

regardless of the nitty gritty details, i hope this all works out for you tarrah. what a crappy thing to happen to such a pretty DC.    

[68IIIbuggy]

what a crappy thing to happen to such a pretty DC.  

Yeah, that sucks. I hope it works out OK without too much hassle.

[piercedvw]

With the string of bad luck I've had.. yes I got insurance... FULL INSURANCE
 
The day I officially bought her, I took out storage insurance to cover 11months. I also that day got a day permit to drive her a total of 2 km to the lot during the wait for flatbed.

I booked the flatbed last Tuesday (they told me it would be brought down on the 19th, and I could pick her up on the 20th (Sat am) in Delta.
So I got a 3 day permit, figuring I'd drive her to Shawn's work.. where we could work on her in the heated garage and drive her to my place for Sunday.

Got a call on Friday saying there would be a delay because of the weather and that she would sit the weekend in Merrit.. At this point I'm freaking and asking WHERE??? Thinking she would be sitting on the back of a truck parked at a motel or something.
She assured me it would be held in THEIR compound until the weather cleared..
 ... Keep in mind at NO point up to now did she tell me they hired out a 3rd party to do the transport.

Because of the delay I would now have to pick it up Monday morning.. I told her that they should offer some sort of compensation and have it towed directly to Coq. because I'd now be out the additional cash for another day permit.

 ..... So she (searail lady) told me it would be delivered to Delta.. where they would then be transported to Coq. directly. This was after she checked with dispatch.

So on Friday.. I took out another 1 day permit for the Monday.

All 4 days of the permit were for COMPLETE coverage.. I basically told the lady in the first place to cover ANYTHING that could happen. Gawd... flying 100+km/ hr on the back of a steel bed down the snowy Coq. with 2\" of salt and gravel on the road?!?! . So yes, I paid top dollar.. No basic coverage here.

This whole issue of not telling me about a thrid party joeblow moving my truck.. And yet ANOTHER tow truck company getting the wrong info about picking up my vehicle from Coq.. When at that time it was sitting in Merritt apparently.. FUCK..


Stephan from Rudy has kindly offered to come out for one quote, I will still need another for ICBC and Searail.

 Any other ideas would be greatly appreciated.  I will likely get the gates done from the same place.. and want to make sure it's all done right.. Pm's or posts would be great.


... The stresss.. Dunno if I can handle much more today..  All I've eaten today is Gravol and coffee..  

 I just want my baby better.

 On a good note, I got to spend a few hours today with Emma. Cheech gave me a hand.... We got her wiped down, vacuumed out, peeked at all her nooks and crannies.. I took about 150 pics. I started my 2nd CIP list, and samba parts list.
 Carlos tracked me down a great deal on my battery.. yea!


Just have to keep thinking positive.. could be worse.  :unsure:

[kirin]

Okay Moni,
While I do agree that yeah I may be wrong. I don't quite understand your examination of that statement . Its quite clear to me if someone doesn't deliver, or transit a package and delivers it not in the condition guarenteed, its their fault due to negligence, idiocy whatever. Thats kind of the reason why they have extra insurance in my eyes. Since stuff does happen! I do know this that haulers and tow truck drivers have insurance, some is specialty etc .  The excuse of that Searail doesn't cover Vintage vehicles is a joke.  In my eyes really its not a ICBC matter but yes I can see the issue if the hauler doesn't take responsiblity(Like in this case).

The gray area I could see is this, technically the tarp bit could be an issue. Since it wasn't something permanently fixed to a vehicle I don't know how anybody would really look at it. I'm just taking this from my beginners law perspective.

[silas]

Okay Moni,
While I do agree that yeah I may be wrong. I don't quite understand your examination of that statement . Its quite clear to me if someone doesn't deliver, or transit a package and delivers it not in the condition guarenteed, its their fault due to negligence, idiocy whatever. Thats kind of the reason why they have extra insurance in my eyes. Since stuff does happen! I do know this that haulers and tow truck drivers have insurance, some is specialty etc .  The excuse of that Searail doesn't cover Vintage vehicles is a joke.  In my eyes really its not a ICBC matter but yes I can see the issue if the hauler doesn't take responsiblity(Like in this case).

The gray area I could see is this, technically the tarp bit could be an issue. Since it wasn't something permanently fixed to a vehicle I don't know how anybody would really look at it. I'm just taking this from my beginners law perspective.

[Bruce]

Stephan from Rudy has kindly offered to come out for one quote, I will still need another for ICBC and Searail.

 

You don't need any independant quotes.  Call Dial-A-Claim, then take your baby into the ICBC claim center for the estimate.  ICBC will duke it out for you.

Just like Moni said, Kirin.

[Bubba]

PiercedVW, Bruce is right, and Kirin is also right (did I say that out loud?).  

I hope ICBC goes to bat for you, but in my 30+ years of dealing with insurance companies, ICBC is the main one on  my hit list.  They tend to spend just as many resources looking for a way out as they do to settle equitably.  Especially when there is something a bit more complicated than a simple accident claim.

Not wanting to add to your stress, but be prepared for ICBC to wiggle.  If that happens, then add them to the lawyer's list for mailouts.

Illegitimus non carburundum

Csaba

[Shane]

kirin, no offence, but you've got the basic principles of insurance all wrong.

true, the hauler-shipper is responsible, but the person who is making a claim doesn't go directly after company at fault and/or their insurance provider. the claimant applies to their own insurance provider to cover the costs -- and said insurance provider goes after the dumbass who wrecked the car in the first place.

it's like if some drunk driver plows into your house and smashes through the front window. as a homeowner, you don't chase after ICBC, who covered the drunkard, to pay for the cost of the window. you go to your home insurance provider, file a claim, and the home insurance provider then bills ICBC for the money...

regardless of the nitty gritty details, i hope this all works out for you tarrah. what a crappy thing to happen to such a pretty DC.  

OK, The hauler should have cargo insurance like I do, This is covered by a third party and not ICBC. ICBC will go to bat for you as you are insured by them and you are  their client. However ICBC will not be paying this bill the transport companies policy will. This is how I have to do it.
 

[CHEECH]

An in at ICBC will help for sure... I cant believe how this thing showed up and the headaches she`s had getting this thing here..... Trust me she covered all angles and made damn sure she was to be told if there was anything wrong with the transport of her baby:wacko:  I felt so bad telling her about the damage over the phone ... BUT ALL I KNOW IS...... I HAVE ONE SEXY DC IN MY WAREHOUSE      \"BABY LETS GO FOR TIMMYS\"          :ph34r:  


 

[Jeremy]

As Silas is recommending you should hire Lionel Hunts. I also think he gives out free smoking monkeys to every client. He's got the Simpsons out of some pretty sticky situations.    

[silas]

As Silas is recommending you should hire Lionel Hunts. I also think he gives out free smoking monkeys to every client. He's got the Simpsons out of some pretty sticky situations.  

i wasnt recommending she hire lionel hutz, i was inferring that the asf has their very own law talking ....guy (aka lionel hutz).

[steveo_32]

Just tell me the names of those that screwed it up and I'll break their hands and elbows.......and ankles.......and then it will never happen again!
Now that is what i call insurance.

[~Manda]

Another thing you might want to do Tarrah, is send a complaint in to the Better Business Bureau.  It takes some time
but it may be worth it to protect another 'vintage' vehicle and owner.

Hope it all works out, that DC is pretty sweet

[rustybus]

I got a stupid question why the hell would anybody put a tarp on a car thats going on a flat deck at speeds over 100 k  to me thats just asking for trouble

Chris

[kirin]

PiercedVW, Bruce is right, and Kirin is also right (did I say that out loud?).