My 72 Chop Progress

[Billyisgr8]

So it has been raining everyday here with 1 hour breaks in between rain bursts, I am doing all my body work outside and it really sucks. I am determined to get this done for the Great Canadian even though we have company booked to visit every weekend till sept.  Every guy visiting knows they will be helping finish it if they want to or not.

So far I have cut up 2 pans,  1 from a super with irs,  and one swing pan.  I am using the frame head from the swing to mount to the super pan to get an irs pan.  Yes it is alot of work but what the heck.  I just have to trim 1/8\" off my cuts to get the right dimensions so everything will line up.  Once that is done I am going to mount it to the body, then weld it together.  The super pan is different from about 10\" infront of the pan head so this is where the offset lap joint is.   It is not only the frame head that is obviously different on a super but the tunnel too.

The only part on my engine that has had any work done to it has been the heads which were ported way back in Feb, and  only last week  milled the intake sealing surface for flanges.  I still have to install valve guides and do a valve job and cut the bosses for dual springs.  The engine is going to be a turbo 1600 singleport for now with a cam similar to a 110 and a counterweighted crank using stock pistons.  I will see how many pounds boost stock pistons will handle.  I have 16 cylinder/pistons  to work with.

The car needs the frame head finished, the doors still contoured to follow the chop, all the glass/plexi done, gas line, brake lines, electrical done, a turbo system fabed up, and many misc things completed, and only 6 weeks to do it all. Yahoo.

Wish me luck.

Kevin

[Matt]

wow, you better step away from the keyboard and keep cuttin then...

[Geoff]

If you can get that done for the GCVWS I think you should get some sort of award. I know how long it takes to do all that stuff, Good luck!
Hope to see it cruising the streets during the GCVWS weekend
 

[Hansk]

I put 15 / 16 lbs to 87mm pistons back in the 80's on chevron premium LEADED.  
old used 1641 with bugpack 4063 cam- untouched 041 heads- home made header and intake - b40(I think) rajay- 45 weber side draft - NO WASTEGATE! - stock tranny- stock clutch- stock 62 beetle best et 13.2 @ 101 mph(while the clutch & tranny held)

Same motor now with used 92mm pistons then made about 18 lbs(race fuel still no wastegate) and in a light bug with slicks and close gears = high 11's @ 109 mph

Your going to have alot of fun  

[James Buchan]

Hey I have one of those Bugpack 4063 cams on my shelf!

[Billyisgr8]

The pan is welded, thank goodness for a engine hoist with a good reach, it sure makes taking the body on and off very easy with 1 person, and the brakes are almost done, no line lock for now ( need to hurry maybe I'll still install it if there is time later), disks in the front and larger wheel cylinders in the rear,and larger master cylinder.  Just need hard line from master cylinder to the rear through tunnel or under the car, and from rear wheels to rubber lines.  Next will be running a new gas line then fitting the trans with bracing, putting in the shocks and the body can go back on.  Everything takes soo long re-using old parts, taking everything apart and making it work like new again, I guess it is an accomlishment though, rather than buying new mexican parts..

What is the rulling from the track about using older tires?  I have 2 bias ply fronts that are skinnies 4\" and would like to use them , but they have very minor crackes on the side walls.

I allready know I am short some door screws,  I have 2 parts cars and no door screws.... figures.

Kevin

[Billyisgr8]

Hey I have one of those Bugpack 4063 cams on my shelf!

I will be using a 4062, which should be good to 6500 rpm.  It is not a turbo cam, but it is what I have sitting on my shelf.  This year i am being cheap to see if my heads work, then if it is ok then I'll upgrade.

Kevin

[Hansk]

I only ran that stuff because it was what I had too. A lot of fun for next to nothing . Don't forget a deep sump though.

[Billyisgr8]

Well the weather has been better. The pan is done, I just have to attach the axles, the heads are almost done, have to cut the valve bosses for dual springs, and flycut the cylinder sealing surface, new guides and valves with a multi angle valve job are done, every step involves making up tools to complete something on the heads, which eats up time.  Now to put the body back on and contour the doors to the chop, plexi glass, and get my engine torn apart to figure out what is needed. then on to the turbo and tuning.

I think it is going to be very close for time.

Kevin

[Chris]

I've got a BP 4063 in my N/A (IDA's) 'race' 1879cc engine...as a 1775 it ran 14.9 in one of my heavier cars...hopefully it stops breaking tranny's and I get a time on it in the current configuration...I just got the engine back in today after putting in an 8-bolt 4.375 R&P and a spool...she'll chirp my AA traction rated 215's on the 2/3 shift.

[Billyisgr8]

Oh my 2 working days left....GULP...... It is raining right now.  This is going to suck if it rains tomorrow.  I have abit of work to do still, install windows, seat tracks,  all electrical, finish doors, bleed brakes, start and tune engine, and what ever else I am forgeting.  I am not looking forward to tuning the engine,  The SU carb is not an easy one to do quickly, especially with a turbo.  I may only end up boosting 7 pounds since this is what the waste gate is set up for right now, and I don't have time to make up a boost controller.  We'll see, if there is time I'll do it, I seemed to have time for the line lock. I just remembered my timing light packed it in, crap.

I don't think I am going to post any pictures, everyone can wait.


It is going to be so close to having it done to......lay some SINGLEPORT ASS WHOOOOOPIN!!!!!!

Wish me luck

Kevin

[Shane]

with 7 pounds  

[Billyisgr8]

yup!

Kevin

[silas]

lmao.

\"ginch pincher\"



kick ass, kevin.

retro gassers are in.

i'm going to build one and call it \"lightning butt\".

or \"underwear dog\".

 

[Billyisgr8]

the next one is the gonch launcher

Kevin

[Shane]

the next one is the gonch launcher

Kevin

I have $5 that says We get  the Kevin e-mail on Thursday at 10pm
Sorry guys I will not be able to make it down, family emerg.....  

[Matt]

the next one is the gonch launcher

Kevin

I have $5 that says We get  the Kevin e-mail on Thursday at 10pm
Sorry guys I will not be able to make it down, family emerg.....

I can't take that wager......

[Billyisgr8]

It has been pouring rain all morning, this absolutly sucks! If anything it is going to be the weather that holds me back from being done since all my work is outside.

Kevin

[James Buchan]

weather that holds me back

Here it comes....

[OUTKAST]

String as tarp man kids can hold an umbrella . get er done BILLY!!! you can do it . See you friday we are heading out around 11:00 fri hope to see you at the track
PERSEVERE
GOOD LUCCK MARTIN  

[Billyisgr8]

Go figure the tarp shelter was just done, and the sun is out.  Stupid weather.

Kevin

[jim martin]

quit screwing around on the computer and get the damb car running  

[Billyisgr8]

Here I sit fighting now with a a flooding carb at only 1 pound of pressure, and the holley reg with the adjusting screw completely out. Engine hasn't been started yet, windows have to go in still, and lots of misc stuff, and some sort of seat brackets have to be welded in, and the carb tuned.  I hope I can beat the clock. I have to try a weaker spring in the regulator.

Kevin

 

[Shane]

OK enough with the excuses,,, Get out there you have about 14 hours before you leave...
You can do it....They always do it on those Chopper shows
 

[Billyisgr8]

I just came to the conclusion, I can't make it.  Another 5 - 7 hours would be awsome, then I could get the engine going.  My flooding was cured by changing from a 5/16\" fuel line to a 3/16\" fuel line.  I know this will bite me later once the power level goes up but ohwell, that is for next year.

I am very disapointed, 4 months of busting myself working ridiculous hours to be ready , only to be short by a few hours.

Have a great weekend everybody, this is a no show for me.  My 1st just to clarify to some people.

Kevin







 

[OUTKAST]

Good try billy

[Shane]

Ok I can understan your car not being ready... Good try,,, However You can still come down and enjoy the weekend!!!
Now get yer ass down here

[moni]

dood, you totally deserve a weekend off after all that work. come down anyway.

[Billyisgr8]

Well got the car running, It sounds REALLY mean ( if power could be judged by sound this should be good) and the turbo spooling up is quite cool sounding, this was the highlight of the morning, huge grin from me, my wife was happy, the kids were excited, but I think I just went to an all time low.   To see oil dripping heavly out the rear of the engine was a new meaining to \"THIS SUCKS\".  Could be a rear main seal? It was brand new probably not, since I am very careful of installing, and oiling it up so it won't burn, Or a cracked case? Since this block was used, and I remember being told it leaked oil out the rear, I checked the rear area closly looking for cracks before choosing the case to build up on, I will think it is a cracked case though, since cracks can be missed.  The oil galley was tapped/plugged, so it is not a loose plug. Grrrr and I was wanting to race next  Friday at Kelowna 1/8 mile.  The case is an as41 mexican and has standard cut.  When it rains it pours.

Have fun at the GC everyone.

Kevin

[Bubba]

Sorry to here about the oil leak.

 I highly recommend doing a penetrant test on every engine case prior to rebuild, especially a used case.  I have found so many that were porous in the front webbing near cyl #3, and some that were cracked in areas you would not believe.  I have also x-rayed some of the newer aftermarket heads and found aero bar in the exhaust guide areas.

Some years ago, I tested several NEW welded and stroked VW cranks that rung like a bell when you hit them with a hammer, but were cracked on both cheek side radii on every rod journal!

If you don't test it, you will find out later.  In your case, it manifested itself into an oil leak.  Some  find out after the engine grenades.

Just my .02