Rant!

[HeliMike]

I have a bone to pick with whatever politician is responsible for cutting back on doctors and nurses in the ER's here . It's absolutely ridiculous.

I went to the ER at LMH with a huge gash over my left eye and blood pouring down my face, there's 2 other people waiting to get in before me, I figure I'm in good hands and should be in there fairly shortly (MAYBE 1.5 hours at the most) but NO.
After about 5 hours, and passing out a few times I'm STILL sitting in the ER! Unbelievable! So I call SMH, there words are \"that's not right - get in here\" so off I go. I get to SMH (this is about 7 in the morning now) and the girl sits me down, asks me a few questions and I'm into the ER waiting for stitches in about 10 minutes. After about 20 minutes I'm stitched up. Doc says because I was unconscious I now have to get a CT scan. 1.5 hours later I finally get my CT scan and I'm told I have another concussion - great - here we go again. \"Go have a seat and the doctor will be with you shortly to go over your CT scan results\" is what the nurse says.
Over 2 hours later I wake up drooling on myself in the waiting room again. ARGHHHH. It's 11:30am, there's daylight outside and I'm STILL waiting for my god-damned test results which had to travel the whopping distance of about 30 ft down the hall! And to top it all off I now have the WORST looking stitch-job known to man above my left eyebrow! The gash was about 3 inches long and about 1/2\" wide and he used only 7 stitches. I've had cuts half that size require twice that many.

What the hell is going on here? Is our medical system really that bad?
I haven't been to an ER in a few years now - holy shit was that a wake-up call! Next time (I know there will be) I'll just go home and wait for a walk-in clinic to open.


Well that's enough of my bitchin' and complainin'.
Later! :mullet:
 

[James Buchan]

Next time call me! I can always use the extra practice!

[rustybus]

don't get me started about the medical system  ]  

[Needles]

I have a bone to pick with whatever politician is responsible for cutting back on doctors and nurses in the ER's here . It's absolutely ridiculous.

I went to the ER at LMH with a huge gash over my left eye and blood pouring down my face, there's 2 other people waiting to get in before me, I figure I'm in good hands and should be in there fairly shortly (MAYBE 1.5 hours at the most) but NO.
After about 5 hours, and passing out a few times I'm STILL sitting in the ER! Unbelievable! So I call SMH, there words are "that's not right - get in here" so off I go. I get to SMH (this is about 7 in the morning now) and the girl sits me down, asks me a few questions and I'm into the ER waiting for stitches in about 10 minutes. After about 20 minutes I'm stitched up. Doc says because I was unconscious I now have to get a CT scan. 1.5 hours later I finally get my CT scan and I'm told I have another concussion - great - here we go again. "Go have a seat and the doctor will be with you shortly to go over your CT scan results" is what the nurse says.
Over 2 hours later I wake up drooling on myself in the waiting room again. ARGHHHH. It's 11:30am, there's daylight outside and I'm STILL waiting for my god-damned test results which had to travel the whopping distance of about 30 ft down the hall! And to top it all off I now have the WORST looking stitch-job known to man above my left eyebrow! The gash was about 3 inches long and about 1/2" wide and he used only 7 stitches. I've had cuts half that size require twice that many.

What the hell is going on here? Is our medical system really that bad?
I haven't been to an ER in a few years now - holy shit was that a wake-up call! Next time (I know there will be) I'll just go home and wait for a walk-in clinic to open.


Well that's enough of my bitchin' and complainin'.
Later! :mullet:

To make a difference, you need to contact your local MLA with what happened to you. It is important that they are  kept up to date.

Actually folks its not the doctors or nurses fault, its called \"the goverment\"
I have been my eighty-five year old mother's caregiver for the past six years, just recently she sat in an  emergency room with a broken hip for ninety-six hours until she had the operation. The only way she received the operation was from her G.P. phoning around to surgeons at 'other' lower mainland hospitals.

Finally she got a bed at Burnaby General, they did the operation but requested her to return to Eagleridge asap(to free up the bed)

The time before this, I took her to emergency with a fractured hip and we waited fourteen hours on a gurney waiting to be admited, then another six hours befor a doctor saw her....

Your injuries have to be life threatening in order for a n emergency room to act immediately...

Contact your MLA. I did....

[moni]

Is our medical system really that bad?

short answer to that is, yes. it *is* really that bad.

the long answer? as far as i'm aware (and as it's my beat, i'm more aware than most. but, you never know), no politician has actually cut doctors and nurses. that would be political suicide. the health-care system in B.C., in every health authority, is facing a shortage of bodies. that's not due to budget cuts, per se

[HeliMike]

Holy crap Moni   .

I know more than I really needed to know!
Kinda makes ya wonder what we're in for....

Thanks for the explanation.


Cheers!

[CHEECH]

MONI,


YOU SOOOOOO SMART



Shawn

[slammedbus]

HEad injury eh??? Well just to remind you about the 400 dollars we agreed on for the parts you want........ :ph34r:  

[steveo_32]

This summer my cousin was out dancing with my sister, who happens to be a nurse. Anyhow she starts to lose the feeling in her leg and they decide to go to a hospital.  After waiting hours to get in, The doctor looks her over in ten min and tells her to go home, her symtoms do not add up........
My sister, who is in the room with the doctor and my cousin waits till the doctor leaves and follows the doctor out to give him a piece of her mind.  She feels there is a need to look futher into my cousins symptoms due to the facts she seems to have blood problems.  Two minutes later my cousins leg is BLUE!
She has a blood clot that has broken off the TUMOR in her heart and traveled down her leg and caused a clot!  Open heart sugery at 27. She has no previous issues and if they would have left and went home she would not be with us now!
It is just one of the many stories of  Rush Rush Rush due to lack of funding!
Yes, Some nurses and doctors get paid alot on money!  But for me I will take a pay cut as long as my family is with me!

[moni]

don't be fooled: i'm really not smart. just bored at work a lot.  :lol:  

[Cameron]

It is just one of the many stories of  Rush Rush Rush due to lack of funding!
 

I call \"Bull54/t!\". The provincial healthcare system has tons of money. If you give them more money, they will find new ways to piss it all away. And the waits for surgery will stay the same. History has already proven this. More money does NOT mean better service. Every day I see hundreds of millions of dollars being wasted on \"special projects\", and an incredibly huge bureaucracy.

Unfortunately, the only way you get priority service in the emergency room, is when you arrive in an ambulance. Next time you need to go, call 911.  

[Hansk]

Moni ,  this is your beat?  Go get the story from Cameron. I would think this could be huge.  

[rustybus]

Calling 911 will not get you in any faster.  My wife had to take her boss into the hospital by ambulance and she got there at 11:00am and did not see a doctor until 4:00pm.  She did not feel comfortable with what the ER doc said at LMH so the next day she took him  to see his doctor and learnt more from him in the 15 minute visit than what  the a hole in Emerg told them.            

[Needles]

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The time before this, I took her to emergency with a fractured hip and we waited fourteen hours on a gurney waiting to be admited, then another six hours befor a doctor saw her....

Not true, this time noted and the previous time was from an ambulance. They prioritise your injuries...

[Chris]

Speaking from some very direct exposure to the emergency wards in the lower mainland, ambulances do get priority for bed space, not neccesarily treatment, they need to free up stretchers to hit the streets again....

...secondly, maybe if people would go see a doctor in an office for there colds and minor injuries, medical clinics do provide services such as stitching your minor wounds. People need to think back to when having a family doctor was a norm, you went to him/her because they knew your medical history, and had a better understanding of who you are, now everyone wants to be fixed fast, so you go to the hospital where it is a doctor who has already seen 200+ people and he is supposed to be able to just know that you have a previous history of such 'n' such in your family?! And then people get pissed off when they dont get what they need or want, like some magic prescription that will cure all, maybe you just have a bug and should go home. Rustybus pointed this out \"She did not feel comfortable with what the ER doc said at LMH so the next day she took him to see his doctor and learnt more from him in the 15 minute visit than what the a hole in Emerg told them.\" IS this maybe because it was his doctor and he knew the persons history? He obviously was not dying, so maybe they could have gone straight to the doctor instead. Just an observation, I dont know all the facts....

...sometimes doctors do make mistakes, but you know if you dont stand up (or scream if you cant stand) for yourself know one will ever think differently. And remember because of our choices in government, hospitals have been run like a business for several years now, with marketing departments that want to know how to get more customers! Nurses had there contract cancelled, other hospital workers had wages rolled back and doctors wages were capped (personally I think nurses do all the hard work anyway so I dont worry too much about doctors wages)

Just think first, do I really need to go to the hospital? Oh look my hand has been severed, yes you should go, oh I have headache and a cough, hit the couch have some chicken soup and sleep it off......

Just my $ 0.02, If I left anything open please let me know....

 

[rustybus]

. Rustybus pointed this out \"She did not feel comfortable with what the ER doc said at LMH so the next day she took him to see his doctor and learnt more from him in the 15 minute visit than what the a hole in Emerg told them.\" IS this maybe because it was his doctor and he knew the persons history? He obviously was not dying, so maybe they could have gone straight to the doctor instead. Just an observation, I dont know all the facts....

Oops ! I made a mistake it wasn't his doctor it was a walk in, I also forgot to say that she went to see him at home first and that his kidney infection was so bad that an ambulance
was called for transport . I guess I made a mistake aswell but it didn't kill anybody. now you know the facts as do I :blush:
We deal with hospitals all the time our daughter has epilepsy and a g-tube (she is feed by machine nothing by mouth) because of so many bad hospital run in's will not go un less it is 100 % nessesary . As I said in my first post don't get me started.    

[Needles]

Speaking from some very direct exposure to the emergency wards in the lower mainland, ambulances do get priority for bed space, not neccesarily treatment, they need to free up stretchers to hit the streets again....

 

Okay,

strange... I stood talking with the parametics beside my mum lying on their stretcher for 14 hours waiting to get admitted......

[Chris]

Speaking from some very direct exposure to the emergency wards in the lower mainland, ambulances do get priority for bed space, not neccesarily treatment, they need to free up stretchers to hit the streets again....

 

Okay,

strange... I stood talking with the parametics beside my mum lying on their stretcher for 14 hours waiting to get admitted......

I have seen in some very rare cases where they are zero beds available at all, in those cases the ambulance service cannot release care of that patient. You may have been one of those lucky ones, I have done that before though, never for that long but have had to standby with patients on stretchers for several hours....
 

[Billyisgr8]

Ok Straight from a nurses mouth, My aunt who has been an O.R. nurse for 25 years

3  things she is PO'd about, but is part of a union so nothing is done about it, and mouthes have to be kept shut, except she has quite a mouth, and loves to talk about what is wrong with the system she works in every day.


1 - Wages are OK for full time nurses,... it is the doctors who are taking advantage of working for essential services, ....they quit and we are screwed, they know that, and can pretty much demand almost anything and get it, because they will walk, and make a huge problem for the government, and we all will cry fowl.


2 - There is not a nurse shortage, this is a bull$hit ploy,   the nurses have figured a way to make more money by saying  this.  They only put down they want to work part time like 20 hours.  They are really working 40 + hours, which is full time.  They should be paid full time wages..... Instead they are making time and a half and double time for any hours more than 20 hours.  All stats you here about on the news is for full time nurses.  Who in their right mind would put down full time when there is much $$$ to be made working part time and putting in longer hours?  They still would only put in 40 - 45 hours like a regular shift.

3 - Benifit package...Mostly BC medical  This is where my aunt might be a little biased, as she only talked about East Indian's she knew.  Any person living under the same roof as a worker of the hospital union gets full medical coverage.  It could be up to 50 people, If they are Imediate family, and living at your address, they are covered.

Here is some light shed of things you don't here on the news straight from a nurses mouth.


The rest is my opinion

It is true there is enough money to make health care work well,  It needs to be managed better by the unions just like a bussiness on the stock exchange.  Health care would be sunk if it was a stock.  Health care should be run by the gov't, not unions. Unions just make the price go up, because some other worker from another province is getting more $$ or benifits.  Gov't unions have it made, demand more money, better benifits, or walk, and you will get something better, than you have.  


Yes Unions are to make a better working enviroment, The pay is good, and the benifits are what employees deserve.  BUT DON\"T TAKE ADVANTAGE OF ESSENTIAL SERVICES THAT US TAX PAYERS ARE PAYING FOR.

 

[Chris]

Ok Straight from a nurses mouth, My aunt who has been an O.R. nurse for 25 years

3  things she is PO'd about, but is part of a union so nothing is done about it, and mouthes have to be kept shut, except she has quite a mouth, and loves to talk about what is wrong with the system she works in every day.


1 - Wages are OK for full time nurses,... it is the doctors who are taking advantage of working for essential services, ....they quit and we are screwed, they know that, and can pretty much demand almost anything and get it, because they will walk, and make a huge problem for the government, and we all will cry fowl.


2 - There is not a nurse shortage, this is a bull$hit ploy,   the nurses have figured a way to make more money by saying  this.  They only put down they want to work part time like 20 hours.  They are really working 40 + hours, which is full time.  They should be paid full time wages..... Instead they are making time and a half and double time for any hours more than 20 hours.  All stats you here about on the news is for full time nurses.  Who in their right mind would put down full time when there is much $$$ to be made working part time and putting in longer hours?  They still would only put in 40 - 45 hours like a regular shift.

3 - Benifit package...Mostly BC medical  This is where my aunt might be a little biased, as she only talked about East Indian's she knew.  Any person living under the same roof as a worker of the hospital union gets full medical coverage.  It could be up to 50 people, If they are Imediate family, and living at your address, they are covered.

Here is some light shed of things you don't here on the news straight from a nurses mouth.


The rest is my opinion

It is true there is enough money to make health care work well,  It needs to be managed better by the unions just like a bussiness on the stock exchange.  Health care would be sunk if it was a stock.  Health care should be run by the gov't, not unions. Unions just make the price go up, because some other worker from another province is getting more $$ or benifits.  Gov't unions have it made, demand more money, better benifits, or walk, and you will get something better, than you have.  


Yes Unions are to make a better working enviroment, The pay is good, and the benifits are what employees deserve.  BUT DON"T TAKE ADVANTAGE OF ESSENTIAL SERVICES THAT US TAX PAYERS ARE PAYING FOR.

The first thing is pretty much true........

The second thing, I wouldn't believe that for a second. Thats laughable.

The third thing, is absolute crap, dependants, not imeediate family, and once you hit 25 ( the maximum allowable for a dependant if your in full time school ) your on your own, the only person who remains is the spouse. That I know for a fact.

Your view on unions controlling it all is delusional, in fact it is beneficial to have a union, you can impose limits on work hours, and wages are controlled, so you can pretty much predict costs down to a cent. What about suppliers, do you think bandages are free? What about all the medications given to you in a hospital? There are many more factors involved, you cant have a medical system such as ours without there being a cost, we have a cooperative system for the most part, we all chip in to help each other. Did you know how much it would cost you for medical insurance in the US if you had previously had cancer? My mother who is a registered nurse, was quoted over $7500 USD per year by the hospital that offered her a job in the US, how much does it cost in BC ?? $650 CDN, not bad. Have you actually heard what happened to the last few contracts for health care? Nurses contract, torn up. Retracted by liberal government, no increase, and they extended the amount time it takes to get to top rate, yes the wage is ok, but something like 8 or 9 years now without a raise at all. The HEU had there wages rolled back almost 20%.

Anyway, back to some VW stuff, I am still looking for a full set of fenders for my 65 beetle, any decent set would be nice, as long as there not rusted out and crumpled. Thanks. I heard Pointblank may have found a double cab too!

[Matt]

Didn't we have a discussion about unions a couple months ago??


I still have a set of fenders here. If you wanna come out and have a look feel free.

[Chris]

Didn't we have a discussion about unions a couple months ago??


I still have a set of fenders here. If you wanna come out and have a look feel free.

cool, you around this weekend?

[Shane]

This summer my cousin was out dancing with my sister,

So this is ok in Mission  cousins can date...  

[Chris]

So this is ok in Mission  cousins can date...

HAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA, are you our cousin Billy?  

[CHEECH]

My Wife ( I love saying that ), is a RN, she makes huge amounts of $$$$ to help pay for my vw stuff

[steveo_32]

My cousin is my sister.....and my dad....

[Chris]

My cousin is my sister.....and my dad....

now that is some messed up shiat!

[Needles]

My Wife ( I love saying that ), is a RN, she makes huge amounts of $$$$ to help pay for my vw stuff

Stop stirring the pot (you'll only get HIM going again   )

[Cameron]

Just when you thought this thread may have ended..... I found this interesting tidbit in the news.  I guess the moral of the story is, never trust your doctor, ask lots of questions.  Doctors make mistakes too. Read on!


Medical error is a hidden epidemic that costs lives and money.

According to the recent book The Human Factor by University of Toronto professor Kim Vicente, medical error is a \"hidden epidemic\" of chart-topping proportions. In 1999, the Institute of Medicine, a distinguished medical organization that provides information to the U.S. Congress, released a report stating that between 44,000 and 98,000 preventable hospital deaths occurred each year in the U.S. alone.

If commercial aviation had the same mortality rate, it would be equivalent to a wide-body jet going down every one or two days with no survivors.

Hospital error kills more people each year than AIDS, breast cancer or traffic accidents. Preventable medical injuries cost Americans an estimated $19 billion to $26 billion each year. Studies in Australia, New Zealand, Denmark and the United Kingdom have revealed equally appalling statistics.