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Offline purple turd

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anyone using vintage speed exhaust?
« on: October 08, 2014, 02:18:58 PM »
Im looking for high ground clearance fairly quiet or at least deep tone exhaust for my lifted beetle. 1904 powered with heater boxes so the engine is wider so nothing fits without hacking. Any ideas? I love the look of stock muffler with bigger tail pipes but it doesnt fit and sounds horrible without the teeny p-shooters

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Re: anyone using vintage speed exhaust?
« Reply #1 on: October 08, 2014, 04:01:59 PM »
I use speed Exaust.  On my bus.  And I like it.  Nice deep sound and not too loud.  I'm glad I spent the money on it.  Instead of buying those cheaper empi ones.  Over and over again every year like a oil change
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Re: anyone using vintage speed exhaust?
« Reply #2 on: October 08, 2014, 07:48:28 PM »
Do you have any pics? id rather see on a beetle but im curious on fit and finish. Ive been screwin with exhausts for 2 years. Now with a wider motor nothing fits anyway so at least I know whatever I buy wont fit, but the vintage speed version seems to have addressed that. I have read that its a bit bulky and low?

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Re: anyone using vintage speed exhaust?
« Reply #3 on: October 09, 2014, 07:34:58 AM »
Ok.  I will send it tonight
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Re: anyone using vintage speed exhaust?
« Reply #4 on: October 09, 2014, 11:55:31 AM »



Now, I could tell you as an enthusiast that in person they are incredible. But as a person who used to evaluate systems for a living, these systems are phenomenal. The workmanship is so far and beyond anything else I've seen for a VW, it's incredible. Hand TIG welded as well. Take a look at the detail photos:




As I'm planning on using heater boxes, the system ships with these flanges, that you can either weld to the heater boxes or use with factory clamps.


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Following a few years of use I have the following to add:  1) swap out the gaskets at the cylinder head for the new CB remflex gaskets, 2) careful you don't overtighten the muffler-to-pipe flanges, or leaks/problems will occur.

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Re: anyone using vintage speed exhaust?
« Reply #5 on: October 09, 2014, 02:09:24 PM »
The quality looks amazing. The fit to engine is probably is perfect as well but to the stock cutouts looks a bit off. How much below the lowest part of the engine does the can hang? My car is body lifted as well so the tighter to the body the better. Is there packing inside for sound dampening or just tuned pipe lenths? I know... too many questions. Where to purchase?

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Re: anyone using vintage speed exhaust?
« Reply #6 on: October 09, 2014, 02:14:05 PM »
This is my car awaiting decent exhaust

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Re: anyone using vintage speed exhaust?
« Reply #7 on: October 09, 2014, 02:32:58 PM »
The quality looks amazing. The fit to engine is probably is perfect as well but to the stock cutouts looks a bit off. How much below the lowest part of the engine does the can hang? My car is body lifted as well so the tighter to the body the better. Is there packing inside for sound dampening or just tuned pipe lenths? I know... too many questions. Where to purchase?

Oh, I should have noted a few things:
1) Ignore the fit to body. I'm running a 901 Porsche Transmission with custom motor/trans mounts that I fabricated myself. Motor doesn't sit in the factory location.
2) I've also got a removable apron, the alignment of which moves somewhat when I pull it off/put it on.
3) I use thicker gaskets which push the muffler down a good 1/4"+

As for your questions...

a) Bottom of muffler body is not much lower than bottom of heater boxes...




b) no packing inside. I've cut and welded mine to clear the drysump pump, definitely no packing.

c) AVR - Usually in stock.

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Re: anyone using vintage speed exhaust?
« Reply #8 on: October 09, 2014, 04:24:52 PM »
The quality looks amazing. The fit to engine is probably is perfect as well but to the stock cutouts looks a bit off. How much below the lowest part of the engine does the can hang? My car is body lifted as well so the tighter to the body the better. Is there packing inside for sound dampening or just tuned pipe lenths? I know... too many questions. Where to purchase?

We have the exhaust in stock @ AVR in Abbotsford. 604-852-9024

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Re: anyone using vintage speed exhaust?
« Reply #9 on: October 09, 2014, 07:24:12 PM »
This may be a question nobody can answer but...do the inlet pipes just end where they enter the can or do they carry on? Im just curious what actually does the ` muffling`.   Oh, and rob.... I didnt know you were the rob from avr. Art built this motor a few months ago and shipped it to vernon. Its a 1904

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Re: anyone using vintage speed exhaust?
« Reply #10 on: October 09, 2014, 08:59:55 PM »
The individual pipes meet into one or two (it's been a while), specialized perforated tubes which are inside the muffler. The perf-tubes are solid in some areas, perforated in others. The tailpipes are, if I remember correctly, directly set into this pipe as well. Been a few years since I had one open.

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Re: anyone using vintage speed exhaust?
« Reply #11 on: October 10, 2014, 07:44:11 PM »
be careful when wrapping the exhaust in that exhaust wrap/tape.  When the stuff gets wet it will promote corrosion and eventaully ruin the exhaust early (even with stainless as most stainless is not the high grade stuff).  I have seen it happen on a few motorcycles and street cars.

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Re: anyone using vintage speed exhaust?
« Reply #12 on: October 10, 2014, 07:59:38 PM »
Vintage Speed systems are built with T304 stainless, not the 409 stainless commonly used in American built systems. But yes, you're correct. This will most definitely cause the system to corrode. Not a big deal in my case, I swap them out annually due to rally damage.

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Re: anyone using vintage speed exhaust?
« Reply #13 on: October 11, 2014, 08:39:01 AM »
Im really curious on how it will sound.with the size of the can it should be a deep rumble I would assume close to silent at idle. Im just gonna have to bite the bullet and buy. Ive already wasted hundreds on garbage exhaust so im a little gun shy. My only other choices would be thing or some form of sidewinder. Thanks for all the info . Feel free to give me any more opinions or suggestions