Author Topic: Top 10 (Read 3823 times)

James Buchan · « **on:** June 29, 2004, 05:33:34 PM »

When I first decided to start the local top 10 list I really didn't think it would become what it has become today. I thought there MAY be 10 cars on there and that would be about it. Well fortunatly I was wrong and it seems that it is really starting to become something for our community. I'm suprised to say the least at the amount of emails I recieve from the website, one from australia even! I am really happy that the website has motivated us to try and get that little bit more outta our cars (so close Hans!) and some are now even worried about the immenant bump from the list (me included).

So why am I writing this? I've been asked and I would like input plain and simple, I don't want to just go ahead and make changes to the site willy-nilly. Your the guys and gals that view the site, what would you suggest/recommend as improvements or to be added/removed.

I've been asked if there will be a seperate list for N/A cars and Assisted cars - what do you think? Right now I don't think it's needed but in the very near future there will be 3+ new cars hitting the track that have turbo's/no2,efi etc and a number of beastie cars with some big carbs... I could see that being a viable expansion - Top 10 N/A, Top 5 Non N/A.

For those wondering what's at the end of the season I'll let the cat outta the bag. Originally I had planned on a plaque of some sort to commemorate the winner's accomplishment, I've now decided to have 1 for both N/A top spot and for Non N/A top spot. They're not going to be some plastic cheesy thing, both will be hand made by me and be quite original.

So post away give me some idea's!

Shane · « **Reply #1 on:** June 29, 2004, 05:38:15 PM »

Sounds Great Man..... However I have the inside scoop and you may want the Non N/A to be 10 spots aswell from the inside scoop I have ...... I hear Turbo is the word.....That is all I can say...
You should have apples to apples...

Maybe DGLVK/DVKK can halp in that Trophy thing...

Great Job on the site man

moni · « **Reply #2 on:** June 29, 2004, 05:59:47 PM »

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Your the guys and gals that view the site

*nods to james for recognizing both genders on this board...*

i think it's great you're getting such a big response. i think the top 10 idea was fantastic. it's tough for an outsider to give input on something like this, because we're not seeing all the emails you're getting and the level of interest out there. i think the top 10 definitely has the potential to grow into different classes, etc.

the only thing i would caution is from splitting up the list into categories too soon. it's always touch and go as to whether it's too early for select lists or not -- it's about timing, i suppose. i would think you're the best judge of that for now james. in the meantime, perhaps you might want to consider expanding it to B.C.'s Top 10, with a list of the next 10-best cars out there as well (B.C.'s top 20, but broken up so it still sounds prestigious?). that way everyone can see if there's certain types of vehicles, be them assisted or non-assisted, which require a separate category. just my 2 cents.

regardless what happens with it, tho, i think it's great you've decided to take on the B.C. Top 10 on your own -- and even offering up prize plaques. tres chic, mon ami.

Shane · « **Reply #3 on:** June 29, 2004, 06:10:51 PM »

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*nods to james for recognizing both genders on this board...*

i think it's great you're getting such a big response. i think the top 10 idea was fantastic. it's tough for an outsider to give input on something like this, because we're not seeing all the emails you're getting and the level of interest out there. i think the top 10 definitely has the potential to grow into different classes, etc.

the only thing i would caution is from splitting up the list into categories too soon. it's always touch and go as to whether it's too early for select lists or not -- it's about timing, i suppose. i would think you're the best judge of that for now james. in the meantime, perhaps you might want to consider expanding it to B.C.'s Top 10, with a list of the next 10-best cars out there as well (B.C.'s top 20, but broken up so it still sounds prestigious?). that way everyone can see if there's certain types of vehicles, be them assisted or non-assisted, which require a separate category. just my 2 cents.

regardless what happens with it, tho, i think it's great you've decided to take on the B.C. Top 10 on your own -- and even offering up prize plaques. tres chic, mon ami.

Well said Groupie

Billyisgr8 · « **Reply #4 on:** June 29, 2004, 06:48:17 PM »

How about top 10 2000cc + and top 10 1999cc and below? It would give a better feeling to those of us staying with smaller engines

Kevin

James Buchan · « **Reply #5 on:** June 29, 2004, 08:03:38 PM »

I'd win that one no problem

Scratchy · « **Reply #6 on:** June 29, 2004, 08:26:46 PM »

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I'd win that one no problem

Not quite James. I've got a 1995 (82x88) which would smoke your 1915...... if it was finished and I had a VW to put it in

In any case, I think the Top 10 should stay the way it is for the time being. It promotes some healthy rivalry and pushes drivers to
get just that little bit extra to stay on the list. Once it fills up with 12 second and under times, then I would consider breaking it up
into Top 10 N/A, and Top 10 others (N20 & forced induction).

Just my 2 cents.

You web site Kicks-Ass!

Keep the info & pics rolling.

James Buchan · « **Reply #7 on:** June 29, 2004, 08:37:12 PM »

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Not quite James. I've got a 1995 (82x88) which would smoke your 1915

Really....well get your \"little\" engine in a car so I can prove you wrong!

Chris · « **Reply #8 on:** June 29, 2004, 09:27:48 PM »

What about type 2's

i wanna race!

Fred Hastings · « **Reply #9 on:** June 29, 2004, 09:31:54 PM »

james, efi is not a power booster, you know.just wanted to clear that up, and let you know good job!

James Buchan · « **Reply #10 on:** June 29, 2004, 09:43:13 PM »

I know it's not a booster, but it's hard to classify it as N/A.

Type 2's are more than welcome (heck type 3's are even ok!)

AlanU · « **Reply #11 on:** June 29, 2004, 11:26:25 PM »

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I know it's not a booster, but it's hard to classify it as N/A.

EFI is considered naturally aspirated James. Advantageous since throttle bodies do not have chokes like the carburetors venturi's but I cannot see classifying EFI as a different category just because its a more efficient \"air pump\" than the primitive carb sort. Its easily classified as N/A its just a different means of atomizing fuel and metering. NO other additives such as oxygen adders or cooling fuel charge (nitrous) in a regular EFI system. Its plain ol' N/A thats all motor.

A power adder and N/A category would be more apples to apples for comparison.

Thanks for the hard work in your website.

James Buchan · « **Reply #12 on:** June 29, 2004, 11:59:59 PM »

Damn someone had to get all technical on me

silas · « **Reply #13 on:** June 30, 2004, 12:31:38 AM »

no offense to billyisgr8t, but i dont like the 2000+cc and under class.

imho,

top 10 n/a and top 5 assited classes (nitrous, turbo, etc) ((etc, meaning if anyone decides to race a v8 powered vw....ughhh :wacko: ))

this willl keep the competion sharp and should make people strive for more power in the \"off season\" when the bumping begins.

and keep it local. bc is cool, but i dont think it should expand past that.

it will allow all the racers to keep it in the community and give people incentive to \"walk the walk\", so to speak.

Stevie · « **Reply #14 on:** June 30, 2004, 01:56:03 AM »

i think there should be some sort of category for best r/t cause some of us are running stock motors and would like to be recognized for our talent.
heck i'm 17 there is no way to even get a chance at building a firebreathing engine, but i would still like to be recognized for who i am and what i have,

or even just a \"stock\" class where it's all driving skill that decides who wins not the power output.

well i thought it was a good idea
Steve

Shane · « **Reply #15 on:** June 30, 2004, 06:26:50 AM »

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What about type 2's

i wanna race!

That means you have to go to the track and race....

red snapper · « **Reply #16 on:** June 30, 2004, 07:14:58 AM »

James, I think you have done a great job despite you grade 8 edumacation!

As far as best reaction time, Come out to the Graeat Canadian show, As I have mentioned it before that I am putting up a case of beer to the person with the best R.T. Volkswagen powered only of course.

Bruce · « **Reply #17 on:** June 30, 2004, 01:58:31 PM »

You could have a little side note of who has the best reaction time. No need to make a ranking, just post who's got the best.
As for breaking it up NA vs Power Adder, you need to estimate how many Power Adders you might get during the whole season. I can't think of more than 6, so why have their own top 10 when the bottom spots won't even fill? Then on the other side, by the end of the season we could see more than 20 vying for the NA list.

James Buchan · « **Reply #18 on:** June 30, 2004, 02:33:39 PM »

My thoughts exactly Bruce - that is why I was thinking top 10/ top 5 - does everyone else agree with this?

I like the idea of best reaction time - anyone with anything can compete in that aspect - I will be adding somethng for this in the next update.

Geoff · « **Reply #19 on:** June 30, 2004, 02:39:46 PM »

Hey why not top 10 NA, Top 5 helper, top 5 with white walls, top 5 with under 1600cc and.....

I think it's better to keep this simple, If you try and break this up into CC's , weight, color etc all you do is break it down by diluting until there is only one or two cars in each group. This was made to be the Top 10 or more fastest street VW's so lets keep it that way.
I do think a N/A and Helper list is better as there are a lot of fast street cars that could be knocked off if everyone add's NOS or a Turbo. If I add one I would gladly swap to the Helper group.
Keeping apples to apples I think a Top 5 helper would be a good idea.

Needles · « **Reply #20 on:** June 30, 2004, 04:37:42 PM »

Other Type Tours,

I'll bring the 'LOW AND SLOW' out to race,

4.500 rpm shifts, yikes...

Since I'm on holidays for six weeks, I'll need a new challange.
Good experience to be had...

Chris · « **Reply #21 on:** June 30, 2004, 06:56:34 PM »

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What about type 2's

i wanna race!
That means you have to go to the track and race....

Ok

Is that all?

James Buchan · « **Reply #22 on:** June 30, 2004, 07:41:11 PM »

Run a time better than 10th spot and BAM you make the list - or at the very least you'll have a video up on the site

Chris · « **Reply #23 on:** June 30, 2004, 08:21:28 PM »

well I think there may be a need for another list for type 2's, there is an obvious weight difference there.

Shane · « **Reply #24 on:** June 30, 2004, 08:53:25 PM »

Well then Get out and Race... we will add your list However more than 1 bus has to enter

Chris · « **Reply #25 on:** June 30, 2004, 10:49:47 PM »

Ok well I guess I better get some ball joints and get my alignment sorted out and take a look at the rule book then.

silas · « **Reply #26 on:** July 01, 2004, 12:02:33 AM »

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that is why I was thinking top 10/ top 5 - does everyone else agree with this?

yes,

top 10 n/a

top 5 assisted.

and it's like geoff said. keep it simple. if you are going to start all these different categories i want one for bench warming. j/k. the simpler, the better.

i'm also unsure about the bus category. sorry guys. if you want a 12/13 second time slip, ditch the bus. if you want to run 19's/20's all day, by all means, go for it. but it'll get tired pretty quick.

jmho.

Hansk · « **Reply #27 on:** July 01, 2004, 01:00:02 AM »

Yup , keep it simple. That means I'm about to be knocked off but I'm okay with that . Top ten means TOP TEN!! The rest of us will just have to work a little harder to get on ......or die trying.

Chris · « **Reply #28 on:** July 01, 2004, 09:17:48 AM »

Did I miss the post that said you had to drive a bug to have fun?

silas · « **Reply #29 on:** July 01, 2004, 09:53:28 AM »

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Did I miss the post that said you had to drive a bug to have fun?

if you're referring to my post, dont put words in my mouth. that's not what i said.

this thread is about james wanting input on the top 10 list. of course everyone wants to be included. all types of vw's with all sizes of motors. someone wants a prize for fastest r/t, someone wants a prize for warming the bench :wacko: , etc. everyone is entitled to there opinion of how the list should be, but in the end it's up to james. from the reaction of the people here in this thread, it seems pretty clear that its gonna be simple. 2 classes, if you got what it takes then you're on. if not, upgrade.

i personally love type 2's. i really hope to own an early panel or 13 window one day. but if type 2 owners want a top 10 list it may be something they will have to put together themselves.

Author Topic: Top 10 (Read 3823 times)

Billyisgr8