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Offline Batan

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Bus glass...
« on: August 11, 2009, 05:27:26 PM »
I'm wondering what do local shops charge for bus windshields, anybody has any recommendations? I need to replace the seal on mine and I'm suspecting it's the original seal and windshield, so there's some scoring and a couple of chips... which also might fail the OPP inspection. So, I'm thinking I should maybe replace the windshield while at it...

Pics of it:


The biggest out of 3 chips:


The old old seal...(that's a hair on the paint, not a crack). Even though this bus is pretty damn rust free, I'm kinda afraid to see what's underneath the seal:




Anybody with a riviera slider? I need this one as it's cracked, driver's side front half:


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Re: Bus glass...
« Reply #1 on: August 12, 2009, 12:09:08 AM »
Don't show up with the crack in the slider window, they'll make you change all the slider windows.  That's because the cracked window is neither tempered nor laminated, so they are illegal.

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Re: Bus glass...
« Reply #2 on: August 12, 2009, 12:17:11 AM »
Don't show up with the crack in the slider window, they'll make you change all the slider windows.  That's because the cracked window is neither tempered nor laminated, so they are illegal.


Wow. Really? ???
Maybe I can just take that part of the window out for the inspection. LOL
« Last Edit: August 12, 2009, 12:19:21 AM by Batan »
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Re: Bus glass...
« Reply #3 on: August 12, 2009, 12:28:20 AM »
Yep, straight glass is a big no-no in a vehicle.  So much that just having it isn't the only violation.  If you took a pattern into a glass shop, it is illegal for them to make it for you.  It is illegal for them to sell it to you.  It is illegal for anyone to install it.

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Re: Bus glass...
« Reply #4 on: August 12, 2009, 12:42:12 AM »
Yep, straight glass is a big no-no in a vehicle.  So much that just having it isn't the only violation.  If you took a pattern into a glass shop, it is illegal for them to make it for you.  It is illegal for them to sell it to you.  It is illegal for anyone to install it.

I know. My "really?" was directed towards the sliders being straight glass. Never occured to me it could be normal glass so I never paid attention to the crack to see if it's straight or not. You sure? Looking at the picture, both pieces have the stamp etched in it in the upper left corners, which kinda makes me thing it's automotive glass:

But will check tomorrow...
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Offline Batan

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Re: Bus glass...
« Reply #5 on: August 12, 2009, 03:22:48 PM »
Ok, I checked and those two little etches say "safety glass" right on them. I don't know which sliders you were talking about but these are real automotive glass. Come to think of it, I would have noticed straight glass first time I touched them.
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Re: Bus glass...
« Reply #6 on: August 12, 2009, 11:46:44 PM »
Tempered glass doesn't crack like that.  It just crumbles into a million little pebbles.
Your windows could be legal, if they are laminated.  A laminated window can crack like that.  But it is unusual for laminated glass to be used on the side of a vehicle.

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Re: Bus glass...
« Reply #7 on: August 13, 2009, 01:59:42 AM »
Tempered glass doesn't crack like that.  It just crumbles into a million little pebbles.
Your windows could be legal, if they are laminated.  A laminated window can crack like that.  But it is unusual for laminated glass to be used on the side of a vehicle.

They are laminated as I can see them delaminating around some edges. I see what you're saying, but windshields are tempered glass and they crack from stone chips regardless. :-\
Either way, these should be fine... other then I still don't know if they'd pass cracked.
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Offline vwmike

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Re: Bus glass...
« Reply #8 on: August 13, 2009, 06:48:44 PM »
Well Bruce is definetly a stickler for details, I've imported  12+ vintage cars in the last 5 years and never ever had them check the glass, as long as the windshield isn't cracked or chipped.  In fact it's allowed to be chipped but only on the pass side.  The only thing they are really checking close is the 15 year old Japanese vans and cars that are popping up everywhere! 
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Re: Bus glass...
« Reply #9 on: August 13, 2009, 07:13:17 PM »
Well Bruce is definetly a stickler for details, I've imported  12+ vintage cars in the last 5 years and never ever had them check the glass, as long as the windshield isn't cracked or chipped.  In fact it's allowed to be chipped but only on the pass side.  The only thing they are really checking close is the 15 year old Japanese vans and cars that are popping up everywhere! 
Mike

Sweet. I also know the person who will inspect my bus which is a good thing. I mean, I don't want a blind eye, just somebody who won't be anal.
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Re: Bus glass...
« Reply #10 on: August 13, 2009, 08:58:03 PM »
......, but windshields are tempered glass and they crack from stone chips regardless.
No, front windshields are never tempered.  Think about the rock that caused that bull's eye you've got.  If the front window was tempered, that rock would have taken the whole window out into a million tiny bits.  Front windows are always laminated.
You won't pass with your front window.  You may get it by the provincial inspection, but not ICBC.  They are very sticky about cars coming into BC with bad windows because they don't want to pay for damage that happened outside of BC.
You also will not pass with the cracked side slider.  Can you take it out easy?  If so, take it to any auto glass shop.  They'll be able to cut a new one from laminated glass.

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Re: Bus glass...
« Reply #11 on: August 13, 2009, 10:08:26 PM »
......, but windshields are tempered glass and they crack from stone chips regardless.
No, front windshields are never tempered.  Think about the rock that caused that bull's eye you've got.  If the front window was tempered, that rock would have taken the whole window out into a million tiny bits.  Front windows are always laminated.
You won't pass with your front window.  You may get it by the provincial inspection, but not ICBC.  They are very sticky about cars coming into BC with bad windows because they don't want to pay for damage that happened outside of BC.
You also will not pass with the cracked side slider.  Can you take it out easy?  If so, take it to any auto glass shop.  They'll be able to cut a new one from laminated glass.

Duh! Of course it would shatter.  :-[
Yes, I think I can take that piece out. Now, I'm not sure I understand what you mean by provincial inspection vs. ICBC?
I will be getting a new windshield even before the provincial inspection though.
« Last Edit: August 14, 2009, 09:08:48 PM by Batan »
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Re: Bus glass...
« Reply #12 on: August 14, 2009, 12:42:33 AM »
If you see Yogi at the swap section Sunday I believe he has a complete unit for you.
He'll have a trailer full of goodies.
Jack

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Re: Bus glass...
« Reply #13 on: August 14, 2009, 08:09:18 AM »
bought mine brand new for 200 from broco in tinted green
1958 Samba 23 Window
1963 Ghia
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Looking for a barn find oval!! something un-screwed with(or split)

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Re: Bus glass...
« Reply #14 on: August 14, 2009, 11:17:32 AM »
If you see Yogi at the swap section Sunday I believe he has a complete unit for you.
He'll have a trailer full of goodies.
Jack
Cool! Is he on here?



bought mine brand new for 200 from broco in tinted green


Nice. Who installed it?
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