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Offline Mowser

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« on: July 23, 2007, 09:44:31 PM »
It just goes to show that even when you do everything by the book and think you've covered all your bases something you never would have thought of comes up to bite you in the ass.  This past weekend our entire family went camping for the first time (outside the yard) in the camper.  I did a full tune up, rebuilt the fuel pump as I wasn't comfortable with it's condition, set the valves, basically everything I could think of that could possibly come back on me.  

I get within 7 km of the camp site (about 13km up a gravel road and in the middle of nowhere) and the bus dies.  The second vehicle in our group catches up and quickly my family are on their way to the campsite.  That's the good news as the weather was questionable.  I investigate while waiting for my wife to return to help me out or pick me up.  Four guys on quads, one an old VW guy, show up and we find that the dizzy isn't turning.  The rough road combined with an ever so slightly under tightened dizzy clamp allowed the dizzy to wiggle up so it wasn't making contact with the drive gear.  Easy fix and the bus is running just as my wife shows up (with camera in hand).  

I fire up the bus and although running a bit rough is running to the point where I'm comfortable to drive it the remaining 7km (of which the last 3 are downhill) to the campsite where we are staying for the next 10 days.  Well I make it about 3km and it doesn't seem right.  Again the road is rough so I can't hear much of anything engine sound wise.  I stop immediately go to the engine compartment to see  :blink: SMOKE  :blink:  I also notice that the nicely painted engine tin on the number 1,2 side is discoloured.   THIS ISN'T GOOD.  

Turns out the smoke is a spark plug wire that has gotten hot enough to melt down.  I'm thinking WTF is causing this as I was only going about 30 mph the whole trip and not working the motor hard at all.  The culprit you ask???????

The previous owner of the bus decided it a good idea to install sound deadening material above the engine, and around the fuel tank.  Apparently he didn't bother to use anything to make sure it couldn't move.  A piece about 12\" x 18\" had fallen off the top of the tank and was sitting up against the back of the Doghouse.  No air =no cooling = hot frickin motor = who knows.

The bus is currently still at the campsite being enjoyed by my family and here I sit back at home contemplating options.  Come Friday I'll be returning to camp, hopefully with ideas and parts to get my baby home.  First step is compression and timing (just to rule out the obvious).  Next step figuring out how to get her to a location I can either push, pull, or drag her home.  Any thoughts?  Ideas I haven't thought about?  

Needless to say it's looking like the GCVWS is out of the question for me this year again (second year in a row) as well as many other camping trips planned.  :angry:   So much for an enjoyable summer, it's back to the grind to pay for more new stuff.
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Offline dirtydeedss

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« Reply #1 on: July 23, 2007, 09:55:53 PM »
too bad man, that sucks. what about towing it out with a tow bar?

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« Reply #2 on: July 23, 2007, 10:41:44 PM »
read your pm pls
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« Reply #3 on: July 23, 2007, 11:22:20 PM »
damn todd, sorry to hear that.

the only things i can think of are things you have probably allready thought of. get under there and have a good look around.

get rid of all that sound deading material in the engine compartment and make sure the vents are clear, there is nothing stuck in the fan and the motor can breath back there.

pop the valve covers & check your valves & adjust if neccesary.

replace that burnt plug wire and check the others. check the plugs while you're at it. check your point gap.

dump that oil and put in some fresh stuff.

take the timing light & set your timing and then tighten the distributor down.

fire it up & limp it home.

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« Reply #4 on: July 24, 2007, 06:06:31 PM »
if it runs... driv 'er! (granted you still have exhaust valves, and the seats are still where they should be)

back when i was daily driving the 63 with the stock , i could never figure out why it would always ping and diesel when i shut it off after driving home from work up a rather large hill, after a couple of months i figured it out. my tarboard would suck in after the motor got warm.  moral of the story, i overheated my car everyday for a couple of months, and it still ran fine for another couple of years! and dont use cheap flimsy tarboard...
 

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« Reply #5 on: July 24, 2007, 08:14:38 PM »
Todd go with silas ,s plan but take a small mirror and flashlight will help to look in back of doghouse and then try and limp it home . Gary ball and Paul neilson and I were driving a van home paul bought in maple ridge. Wasn't running good decided to go mission bridge . Well comming down the other side with motor slowly getting weaker Kapow :o  DRIFTTTTTT! dead  :( Turns out previous owner kept roll of toilet paper in engine bay to check oil on dipstick  :blink: Right up and into the fan shroud toast . I never keep anything in back at all .Hope it works out for you Todd will cal you at home
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« Reply #6 on: July 26, 2007, 03:46:28 PM »
Well I rejoined my family out at the campsite last night only to confirm what I'd thought.  The piece of sound deadening had done it's damage already by the time I noticed it.  Compression tests came back with 30 psi on #1 and 50 psi on #2.  Numbers 3 and 4 were still good.  The piece does make a dandy little cushion to kneel on while working on the bus though.  It'll be a permanent fixture in the bus from now on and used as a cushion as well as a reminder.
   Now the question... do I replace the head on site and drive it home or limp it to where I can get it on a trailer as is?  The big obstacle is that it's a 2 1/2 km climb with a few level areas along route before I can get it on a trailer.  Once on top it's a gradual down hill road for 19km to asphalt and then about 45km from home.  I head out tomorrow after work for the weekend on the lake.  Then Sunday is the day she comes home (one way or another).
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« Reply #7 on: July 27, 2007, 04:35:36 PM »
:( Sorry to hear that Todd give me acall on sunday when you get home hopefully Eddy can trailer it home for you