Author Topic: Driving Schools... (Read 9524 times)

kirin · « **Reply #30 on:** October 18, 2005, 10:34:27 PM »

If you guys seriously think a 4708lb live axle behometh of a pickup without macpherson struts can outhandle a car with semi-trailing arm rear end with macpherson struts, grippy tires and weighs 2100lbs and is 1/3rd the size....

I need the drugs you guys are smoking.
You gotta be kidding me...

Chris · « **Reply #31 on:** October 18, 2005, 10:38:59 PM »

your car may outhandle the truck but the truck driver could out drive you.

kirin · « **Reply #32 on:** October 18, 2005, 10:43:29 PM »

You seem so sure of it Chris.
Nowhere in this post did i ever say I could outdrive Pointblack. That being said my car could probably give a f150 a run for its money on a autocross course.
Where is shanes driving experience? Nobody has come forth and in till I actually hear about how many track days(other then drag) I will continue to have my doubts.
If we want to square things up I'm sure we could probabl convince a good buddy of mine who has a lot of track experience to drive my car to even things up.
I still think though a moderate driver with a good car would be pretty event with a excellent driver and a poor car.
Simply put if f150s were made for autocross don't you think you would see more out there?
Shake your heads...

Chris · « **Reply #33 on:** October 18, 2005, 11:03:43 PM »

So is it you or your car that are taking lessons? Why would someone else drive your car, and I bet I could out drive you on my scooter.

Shane · « **Reply #34 on:** October 19, 2005, 06:50:10 AM »

So Kirin,
I am on some huge drugs here, so much so I am willing to make a bet with you and Stephanie....
Put your money where your mouth is, You drive your rust moblie I will drive my wife 4708 lb Mammoth un controlling truck and we will set up a course in a parking lot and play.....

What do you two guys say $200 each???

Stephan Schmidt · « **Reply #35 on:** October 19, 2005, 07:03:14 AM »

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your car may outhandle the truck

Thank you chris

Stephan Schmidt · « **Reply #36 on:** October 19, 2005, 07:04:06 AM »

oops, double

Stephan Schmidt · « **Reply #37 on:** October 19, 2005, 07:07:49 AM »

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guess you dont pay too much attention to things like that, go kick some tires elsewhere, ford is currently promoting the advanced handling characteristics of the F150. Plus they are one of the best rated vehicles for running your ass down.

maybe I worded it wrong.

Ford will NEVER claim that it can out handle one of its sports cars. Truck vs. Car

moni · « **Reply #38 on:** October 19, 2005, 08:04:37 AM »

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Where is shanes driving experience? Nobody has come forth and in till I actually hear about how many track days(other then drag) I will continue to have my doubts.

sorry kirin, but track days don't mean shit.

driving skills come from experience -- amount of time spent messing up and learning from your mistakes -- not a weekend course in the boonies. this is just a guesstimate, but i believe shane's got 15 more years of driving under his belt than you.

regardless of the vehicles that go toe-to-toe in this ridiculous challenge, that amount of lopsided experience is going to equal only one thing:

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the truck driver could out drive you.

kirin · « **Reply #39 on:** October 19, 2005, 08:22:05 AM »

Track days do mean shit,
Show me a driver that has had 15 years of driving experience and track days vs someone with 15 years driving expereince(If you got more the time has come and passed to come forward) It'll be fun to pick out all the bad habits that we can see. Just because you have 15 years driving experience doesn't necessarily mean your a better driver. Although this isn't necessarily the norm and true for Shane ... Youth can learn quickly. And never(Hold me for this) have I said I'm an expert at anything let alone driving. I'm a car enthusiast that likes corners. So maybe you should shoot me.

Bottom line I don't see you 76 bus out there learning to drive your car. Fair enough your choice. I'm out there learning to drive my car properly. Great for me.
Like I said in my second and first post that I hope this is the FIRST among many track days/ driving schools that I will participate.
Pointblank I apologize for thinking that your truck could eat more cones in one session then my rostwagen could. I guess I missed the f150 races out at mission this year. Sorry guys. NO matter what you do can you convince me that a stock 4x4 behometh can out handle a reasonably built car.

I won't challenge you in something that I cannot win or that isn't legit.

Chris · « **Reply #40 on:** October 19, 2005, 10:56:41 AM »

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Bottom line I don't see you 76 bus out there learning to drive your car.

I have been learning to drive my car for 17 years, I have you beat by a long shot, have a nice day.

Matt · « **Reply #41 on:** October 19, 2005, 04:19:39 PM »

Shane · « **Reply #42 on:** October 19, 2005, 04:31:06 PM »

OK enough is enough...
I know Geoff will be happy to read this

Kirin the only thing you are lacking is maturity.... :lol:
It is so easy to get you going dood....

You know what , I really don't care if you can beat me on cone driving or whatever you call it...I just like to get you twitching.....
However Matty will tell you how I can handle that F-150 on Seattle streets :lol: :lol: :lol:

Moni thanks for the complement...

I am 35 driving legal since 16

slammedbus · « **Reply #43 on:** October 19, 2005, 05:01:14 PM »

NOOOOOO don't stop. This is my source of entertainment for now. Please god keep it going.......poke him again.....come on.....I know....BMW's suck! I can beat it with a tricycle blindfolded.....you can't drive.....

Matt · « **Reply #44 on:** October 19, 2005, 05:04:54 PM »

Shane can handle that truck. 1st hand experience today in Seattle. Damn near spilled my small double vanilla half fat whipped latte.

James Buchan · « **Reply #45 on:** October 19, 2005, 05:06:17 PM »

Shane can even drive well asleep pulling a trailer - ask me how I know!

kirin · « **Reply #46 on:** October 19, 2005, 05:09:11 PM »

Wow,
How to respond to such a kind none flammatory post..
Pointblank you are 100% right about me. I admit it and simply yeah I have a bunch to learn.
You know that I have nothing against you and I know we can get along in person without murdering each other.
At least we can have a good flame war...

Shane · « **Reply #47 on:** October 19, 2005, 06:58:47 PM »

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Wow,
How to respond to such a kind none flammatory post..
Pointblank you are 100% right about me. I admit it and simply yeah I have a bunch to learn.
You know that I have nothing against you and I know we can get along in person without murdering each other.
At least we can have a good flame war...

Dood , I am the \"HULK\" Now... no more pointblank
It's all in good fun Little buddy

kirin · « **Reply #48 on:** October 19, 2005, 07:06:00 PM »

Sigh thanks for turning my world upside down big green guy..

Mike Scott · « **Reply #49 on:** October 19, 2005, 08:49:41 PM »

Is this some sort of gay kiss and makeup? I just read three pages of challenges and mudslinging for nothing?

Come on, lets make this battle between wore out rusty 70's POS BMW vs oversized gas pig happen!

kirin · « **Reply #50 on:** October 19, 2005, 08:57:56 PM »

Hey now don't go slaggin carcar.
She's mechanically solid and has gotten a lot of Jackasserson love as of late.
Since I've got her I've only done...
Floor pans,
Complete interior,
door seals,
tires,
rearshocks(Old ones were blown)
Battery cable fix
Turn signals
rebuilt the heater core 3 times
Fixed the jammed sunroof
fixed the misaligned door trim
... If that doesn't sound like a quality automobile I don't know what is

Mike Scott · « **Reply #51 on:** October 19, 2005, 09:02:05 PM »

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She's mechanically solid and has gotten a lot of Jackasserson love as of late.
Since I've got her I've only done...
Floor pans,
Complete interior,
door seals,
tires,
rearshocks(Old ones were blown)
Battery cable fix
Turn signals
rebuilt the heater core 3 times
Fixed the jammed sunroof
fixed the misaligned door trim
... If that doesn't sound like a quality automobile I don't know what is

Like I said POS

kirin · « **Reply #52 on:** October 19, 2005, 09:07:50 PM »

:lol: Then maybe you should hear the list of what I've done to the bug

Chris · « **Reply #53 on:** October 19, 2005, 09:15:05 PM »

I do recall someone saying they were buying said bmw so they could avoid the hassles of driving an aircooled vehicle, seems that said person may have his foot in his mouth....

kirin · « **Reply #54 on:** October 19, 2005, 09:35:52 PM »

Hassles?
unfortunatly for me I have a big case of \"Caritis\" I can't leave well enough alone. I figured if I bought something reliable life would get boring. The 02 has never left me stranded(7000 miles thus far) and daily sees redline... is a hoot to drive and fits my lifestyle. If I wanted something reliable and hassle free I'd buy a new aveo.
Plus how many of you guys actually drive your aircooled daily?
Truth be told come spring time the bmw may be gone to fund something a bit more practical.

Mike Scott · « **Reply #55 on:** October 19, 2005, 09:51:48 PM »

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I figured if I bought something reliable life would get boring.

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Truth be told come spring time the bmw may be gone to fund something a bit more practical.

I guess life will be boring in the spring?

kirin · « **Reply #56 on:** October 19, 2005, 10:00:48 PM »

Nope,
I have a model A to restore and great race prep...
and I have a 62 bug to enjoy.

Bruce · « **Reply #57 on:** October 19, 2005, 11:18:48 PM »

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My opinion. Going fast in a corner is a lot more fun then just a striaght blast that lasts for 10 seconds.

How would you know? You've never been in a 10 sec car for a straight line blast.

You shouldn't knock the Ford. A while ago I was returning from Whistler on the S2S hwy, and I was schooled by a freakin Ford pickup. Either his truck was that much better in cornering than my car, or he had waaaay bigger cajones than me. New tires fixed my car's deficiency.

Even though your car has McPherson struts and an IRS rear, those pics of it nearly tipping over prove it doesn't handle worth shit. Right away, you need thicker bars on it. A set of Konis and some decent tires would transform that thing.

Yes, I have driven an '02 before.

kirin · « **Reply #58 on:** October 20, 2005, 09:18:04 AM »

Hey bruce.
My car has Bilstein HD's and Eibachs and Falken Ziex 512s. Right now I'm going to practice driving the car as it is. Then ramp it up a bit with perhaps stage 2 springs and adjustible sway bars. Whats interesting to note though is that we will see in the future what happens with 5lbs more tire pressure. The actual feathering on the tires wasn't too bad...
Talking to the Falken Rep today.

Needles · « **Reply #59 on:** October 20, 2005, 10:20:47 AM »

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My opinion. Going fast in a corner is a lot more fun then just a striaght blast that lasts for 10 seconds.

Yeah, but can your car go into a cornor like the HULK and and do about 60-360's- thats an adreniline rush. Oh yeah and go for a 'striaght blast that lasts for 10 seconds.'

Did that in a 68 Race prepared Gordini when I was 18--3-360's.
I wasn't driving, just crapping my pants. :mullet:
He pulled out of it in 3rd gear going 50mph....

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