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Re: Jim Martin
« Reply #360 on: March 15, 2020, 10:52:23 AM »
see previous page #12

Quest for the 9's list : TOPIC UPDATE AS OF TODAY 03/16/2020
- WELL pretty simple just needed to make a few small engine changes ,LOL .
you can see there has always been a constant direction with everything slowly moved fwd
toward building and tuning a Old School turbo motor but adding a few tricks.over time this power plant  has taken more abuse than you could
ever imagine and has been very reliable and a consistent performer ,This engine is still capable of easily putting out another
75-100 hp but for the time being i will just fine tune the state of tune im at now, making it more efficient
and Finnish Dialing-In the details .
  There is more than just having a motor than can put out some jam there needs to be a balance and the whole car needs
to work together , it just takes time.
presently the WOK is undergoing some upgrades again and will bring those up later .
 But will look at the list and think about what to bring up next.

 

.Trans inspected and new synchros and 1.00 4th gear
.Turbo repaired and upgraded with a billet inlet wheel and new exhaust housing ,header pipe fabricated
.New camshaft ,shorter duration more lift
.Engine inspected and overhauled
.k800 valve spring inspected and installed and readjusted
.EGT probes installed
.New REV6 clutch in ,tested and adjusted
.New intake fabricated
.Drysump oiling , done previously


- replace 4th gear and at same time replace all synchros and inspect trans, test new torco transaxle fluid
- go through motor and make sure its solid
- replace valve springs and reset spring pressure
- install EGT temp probes
- modify fuel system for high speed lean out
- upgrade clutch system to rev6
- repair damaged turbo and discuss options
- perform options to turbo and upgrade inlet to billet wheel and eplace exhaust housing
- fabricate new exhaust outlet pipe
- fabricate new intake manifold
- clean and simplify engine wiring and pipework
- test new ECMS ,clutch management system focus on consistent low 60 foot times.
- rewire complete car electronics
- fabricate and wire completely new data logging system
- tune new fuel curve as per new EGT data and work on aggressive but safe tune
- replace frt and rear shocks
- replace rear torsion bars
- dry sump oil system
- vacuum pump
- MFI
- reset and alter alignment specs for new speed
- finish testing new night-stick select shifter
- replace camshaft and not because I wanted to but had to
- haul ass and go fast

this list will help me go through topics and can cross a few more off now
 looks like its shock time

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Re: Jim Martin
« Reply #361 on: March 27, 2020, 08:03:07 PM »
so what have I been doing ,drinking , smoking , social distancing and wasting the rest of my time .
 besides that moving fwd slowly real slowly but fwd at least.
yes, its really all about safety and the WOK has been pushing it for some time ,was thinking of heading to VEGAS in Oct .
but with the way things are economy wise im a bit tight .
so motor stays in car with deckled closed .want to do my winter overhaul but can't afford to do so ,
SO time to upgrade to 8.50 CERT cage . I have a 6 point need a 8 point and window net ect ect.
now 2 of my 6 points are legal and the other 4 are not ,needs to be supported on 6x6 " /36 sqin area 1/8 " plates .
I have 2 great contacts one local and one in the USA.
towed the car out for chassis inspection and got the pre-inspection list as well as bounced pictures ect off chassis inspector in USA .
stage #1 update the frt "A" piller 3x6 plates to 6X6 as well as add another 18 square inches to the "B" pillar mounts .
they were both cool in the not fully welded section and let the wires pass behind added 3x4 plate

for the 'B' pillar fabbed up some additional area boxes . played around with some tig settings for fun .
3 pieces later I more than added my total area of 36 sqin

yep more grinding of paint , real fun and clean .and some tig time and mig time and its done .
tape is covering bare metal , also added the 6x6" plate on the tunnel for the two 1.250" required "D" bars

halo fits well

passanger "A" bar is a piece of work ,
As always the plan is with the door closed roll cage is pretty much hidden ,just takes time

tig time ,practice and more practice . the tubing is 1 5/8" 0.083"wall 4130 chromoly .welds nice with ER70s-2 rod and about 85-90 amps

time of no turning back .tacked the passenger "A" bar to the Halo ,was not sure if it would come out , but it was tight but luckily it did .
added another 6 tacks and started welding about 1/2" -3/4" at at time moving around .you can see now those 'A' bars are pretty unique .

the plan is prime and paint the halo/A bar assembly then Finnish fitting the drivers "A" bar and paint it .then tack it to the Halo in the car .
I need to be able to fully weld the assemble so the top will be impossible .
so tack it and if worse cannot be removed just drop the rear halo down so I can get to the top of the Drivers "A" bar for welding .
the prop up again and weld Halo to main hoop and frt floor lower mounts .
also after test fitting will do the same with the "D" bars
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Re: Jim Martin
« Reply #362 on: April 09, 2020, 01:31:27 PM »
well picking away at things slowly , prepainting 2x "D" bars. 1X drivers "A" bar and hoop/passenger assembly tomorrow .
then in for welding into car ,
so far as planned fits real tight i like the stealth look as well as when driving its not getting in the way entering or exiting the car or
blocking view fwd


D bars done


drivers 'A" bar done


hoop and passenger assembly out and primed for paint






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Re: Jim Martin
« Reply #363 on: April 21, 2020, 09:13:14 PM »
Finally had good weather so out went the “D” bars
The drivers “A” bar and the hoop assembly for paint
And clear , masked of the tube ends about 2” to leave room for weld ,
Mixed up some base and reducer and
Used my small badger airbrush, worked perfect for
The job and used a aerosol clear turned out great and was real simple.




The hoop assembly was wrapped in a thin foam and installed the other day .
It’s never coming out again now you now why it needed prepainted




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Re: Jim Martin
« Reply #364 on: April 26, 2020, 03:18:27 PM »
Not doing much , like everyone else . Just hanging out with family.
Got the main hoop and drivers “A” bar in , used straps to make sure
It’s fully seated and locked into position.
Ready to tack the drivers “A” bar then will drop the complete assembly
Down for full weld and paint






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Re: Jim Martin
« Reply #365 on: May 02, 2020, 10:22:01 AM »
picking away slowly , tacked the drivers A bar to the main hoop ,welded the bottom section then Tim to drop the assembly.
yeah almost did not happen its tight and required a bit of force to pop it past the main hoop .
dropped and welded ,then primed and painted ,ready to go back up .
need help from the girls again ,not a one man job that's for sure .then its TigTime 8 joints to go




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Re: Jim Martin
« Reply #366 on: May 12, 2020, 01:27:00 PM »
Well gota think , WOK is on its wheels and starting to weld in roll cage .
so ill fit those in here and there .
so its either gota  be
NIGHT-STICK select shifter or MFI mechanical fuel injection


sorry samba pulled photo was not clean .will upload another  or switch to another topic

or

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Re: Jim Martin
« Reply #367 on: May 18, 2020, 07:53:05 PM »
well main hoop and "A" bars are in and about 1/3 welded at each point outa gas so tacked and 2 sections of weld at each point.
now can put it back up onto jack stands ,that will make welding a bit easier not being so low and now everything is tacked when all wheels on the ground , much better.

 hey no 8.50 cert cage here


like the rest of the roll bar the new cage upgrade is as hidden as it can be .its friggen in there tight .
from the frt ,not the best shot but under normal light bars blend in .


this shows the tight fit ,can be done just takes time and some good planning .pain in the ass actually.


yep snakes there pretty good .

hopefully will Finnish welding these 4 points then will weld in the "D" bars .
for all you tig welders .welding the chromoly 0.083" wall tube is easy like I said 83 amp zone .
but welding to a 0.120" wall mild steel cage or even worse floor plates not so easy as you are dealing with 2 different size materials as well as major heat dissipation
tried with 83-90 amps disaster .needed to set to 120m amps .start puddle at floor plates or mild steel roll bar and let puddle wick up to new cage tapering off to 107-110 amps
any way hope everyone is safe and off to the weld shop for a refill .




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Re: Jim Martin
« Reply #368 on: May 23, 2020, 04:52:09 PM »

Who took my door



Pulled the drivers door for welding “A” bar , worked real well , passanger door
Stayed on .
So both “A” bars welded and hoop both points about 80% welded .
Gota look how I’m going to tig the top




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Re: Jim Martin
« Reply #369 on: May 29, 2020, 09:03:57 AM »
ok going to get it done , serious time now .well not really to serious .
top of main hoop and "D" bars here I come .then its easy after that .readjust seat frame , paint and window net .

Got everything prepared, using a CK-9 flex head to torch and even modified the smallest back cap for another
1/2 more room , not bad total under 2”.
Time for some test passes
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Re: Jim Martin
« Reply #370 on: June 01, 2020, 10:18:42 AM »
Check 8.50 cert cage upgrade off the list ,im a good welder but I needed someone with excellent vision, steady hands ,and some killer skills to somehow
Weld the section of the hoop to the main roll bar at the top ,basically its welding blind in a spot that is almost impossible to get a tig torch into .
   I made a call to Dave at http://www.coastweldingsupplies.ca
If you need welding supplies , bottle rentals and fills or advice . coast welding supply is excellent ,well priced and some of the nicest guys I’ve ever dealt with . And yes if you’re like me and are short on time they have delivery service.

  I recently hurt my right thumb bad . So I called Dave at coast welding supply and asked if he new anyone that could help.
now finding someone to help and go mobile is a tall order but luckily for my I was soon contacted by Kennan ,we chatted and he came up took a look and on Friday 2 hrs later it was a wrap ,thanks Bud you were fantastic to work with !!!!!!!
  So not always easy to find a guy that loves cool projects but he is one .
Now for me since I had everything prepped and my tig equipment is top shelf it just worked out great .he just showed up with his helmet and gloves and was good to go .
 So ,If need some help or some fabrication or welding please contact him and discuss your project .
https://www.instagram.com/keenzo/
Keenan’s phone number is 604 364 5662
Or e-mail k.domerecki@gmail.com

“D” bars to tunnel ,check

“D” bars to main hoop , Check

Halo to main hoop ,check and check 


Turned out great



And hey how about a few action shots of Keenan twisting himself in there .


Man I was happy not having to do the twist .
Next reposition seat and ready for window net  planning .then paint it up
 




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Re: Jim Martin
« Reply #371 on: June 14, 2020, 06:15:08 PM »
Good looking bunch , will see if it happens this year.
   Great weekend and did some pre celebration of turning double nickels tomorrow.
And looks like we may  be the first to hit 100000 views.
   been working on cleaning up and on a new seat position as I had a issue with my HANS device last year .
seat needs to be uprighted about 10 deg and dropped down 1-2 inches .
window net mounting kit is on route .

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« Reply #372 on: July 13, 2020, 10:50:01 PM »
^^ cool pic! good times, great friends, great memories!  :wub:

congrats on over 100k thread views Jim!! plus the 8.5 cage looks awesome! nice work!  :cool:

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Re: Jim Martin
« Reply #373 on: July 14, 2020, 10:25:52 PM »
Thanks bud and talk soon.
June is a very busy month at our house so only bits here and there can be squeezed in.
  I have welded in the top fwd tab for window net but not the rear.
I have a issue that needs correcting for some time , my current Jazz race seat just isn’t working
Very well . And when I tried strapping in with the HANS device it was a disaster. So time to figure it out .
Watching videos I see I like to sit more upright  annd quite high ,and when I lean back into the seat my helmet hits the seat
Headrest top , then when I strap in with the HANS device I’m looking up at the top of the windshield and my
Neck gets kinked .
My current seat mount is horizontal and level with the chassis but the seat backrest angle is 27.8 deg , wow.
No wonder I sit fwd and when strapped in look out the top of the windshield, now shimming at the rear under the seat to bring
It to 18-20 deg was doable but now the seat bottom was tilting down.seat is supposed to be 20 deg but hey mass production stuff.
   So solution is a new seat , got it narrower and with correct seat backrest angle 18 deg and better height and fit And with Hans
Device no issue ! Test fit went ok . Now time to make a new seat mount, this is a fun project . Aluminum, tig time ,  cutting and drilling,
Some flash and allot of measuring and test fitting , right up my alley .
Here is the start . Bottom base coming together , slides in between original seat base and bolt to it with original holes.
Started already on top brackets , hopefully Finnish or nearly Finnish this weekend the complete the window net mount .
  Seat position is very critical and I found out I was actual offcentre to the left quite a bit .
So my new seat is now Centred and 2.5” lower and adjustable for can aft an tilt from 10-20 deg , sweet.
Here we go

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Re: Jim Martin
« Reply #374 on: July 15, 2020, 10:35:28 PM »
Got the top track welded on the inner plate.



Little bit every day .
Here’s what’s going on / kinda the end result , but more work to do ,



Lots more to go , Gota decidevweather I bling the seat mount plates.
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Re: Jim Martin
« Reply #375 on: July 19, 2020, 08:42:33 PM »
top plates are welded on , frame is bolted in yep now you can see no butchering original seat track .gota outa box think a bit

time for yet more mockup ,most likely about the 50th time its been in and out

sweet side plates are bolted to frame as well as seat bolted to side brackets

sits at 18 deg on the button .2" lower and feels great and HANS device and helmet position really good .
needs the jim T@L once I remove later . working now on back rest support and window net




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Re: Jim Martin
« Reply #376 on: July 27, 2020, 07:49:10 PM »
well I was pretty happy with my new lower mount until I got in and was really paying attention , never really noticed it .
maybe because my new seat is narrower than the old im fairly snug .so yep its dead centre in the mount but the steering wheel feels way off to the right .
and same with the pedals .took some thinking but that's the way vas are by design .seat is centre correctly on pan but due to frt beam and position of frt wheels
and steering box it has to be off to the right and same with the pedal assembly .its tight up there .
SO what to do . measure straight down from centre of steering shaft to floor , then measure centre of seat and voila its off about 1.250" .
well can shift over 1" easily so tig time another section of aluminum to the lower seat mount and slide it over .
much better feel ,way nicer now .I can't believe I missed it earlier on .
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Re: Jim Martin
« Reply #377 on: August 08, 2020, 12:40:29 PM »
well got the seat figured out and will come back to that .
modified the top sprin loaded window net mount and tigged in the brackets.
notice the top fwd bracket is not hanging down but horizontal so when entering the car it not a head gouger.


net mocked up


inside view taking shape


pattern is rolled up and on route to STROUD Safety for a custom net .
once back will Finnish lower mount

 Best news is it time to start the reassemble,seat out and vacuum and damp rag time .what a mess.
started by touching up the floors with the old por15 .turned out great .
nice 2tone on the frt 'A' bar mounting plates.
you can see where the wiring will go behind plate .


tape time ready for body color on 3 more welded points


that completes paint on the passenger side


"D" bar center mount turned out ok


next is the drivers side completion , floors are done need to paint upper hoop, crossbar/D bar point and fwd window net mount .next week problem.
as well need to install a new solenoid for my clutch management system ,ECMS. then bleed it .the old solinoid is jut very old and its time for a new upgrade










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Re: Jim Martin
« Reply #378 on: August 13, 2020, 09:05:11 AM »
Finally got it done , 8.5 cert cage is painted and complete minus lower window net mount , which I need a net in order to complete.
Yes it worked out well and fits nice and tight and conforms well .
Time to start reassembling the interior and make small changes as I go .
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Re: Jim Martin
« Reply #379 on: August 13, 2020, 11:24:50 AM »
looks awesome Jim,tubular sculpture.
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Re: Jim Martin
« Reply #380 on: August 16, 2020, 11:54:06 AM »
now im getting somewhere .
drivers door back on ,that's been off a while now.



one thing im doing is anything that is removed doesn't go back on or in until its upgraded, repaired and weight reduced.
with the drivers door without going crazy ,the door check was out so it got the Swiss cheese effect as well as all window regulator hardware
door pull hardware ect is swapped out to aluminum fasteners ,steel is used when strength is needed of course .
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Re: Jim Martin
« Reply #381 on: August 21, 2020, 02:11:19 PM »
looks awesome Jim,tubular sculpture.
thanks bud , and Lanny good hearing from you the other day .

well what have I been doing , first im terrible taking pictures in the car its dark and doesn't pan out the best .

 ok this is a crappy picture , but there were a few things I planned to do when the interior was coming together .
fix-up crappy wiring , as well as have no wiring lying on the floor pan . runabout all wiring and tuck behind roll cage mounts .
really fun pulling wiring apart, what disaster but 2 looms later it was done , cleaned up im happy .even putting mats back in now .
the main loom runs in the original location and behind the left frt A lower mount and the aux harness runs through the rocker and pops out in frt
of the frt A bar lower mount.
NO more wiring lying on floor ,weee



closer but you get the idea


passenger frt A bar mount wiring tucked in ok as well ,


looking in from drivers door all cleaned up as well .


that completed the complete interior wiring cleanup and reroute now some cool stuff .
 how about some clutch management and data logging stuff coming next !

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« Reply #382 on: August 22, 2020, 08:30:19 AM »
DATA how did we ever run without it ? well there was a time things were simpler .But know as things get more critical when pushed harder
it sure help to know if your on the correct path .
DATA means Nothing if your not smart enough to use it and still never skip the basic steps .
a good example would be assuming your EGT (exhaust gas temperature) are ok/safe without being smart enough to pull your spark plugs
and compare the EGT readings to your Spark plug readings . most don't pull plugs cause there lazy , bad on you .it has to be done .
  Where to start and what do I use .like many I started off very basic with a old LM1 from Innovate Motorsports . great unit and still have it .
and as motors and speed increased as well as having a few melt downs it was time to become way smarter .
 Yes ill say im a very good spark plug reader been doing it forever , But turbo/methanol reading is a different story .same but different .
Running methanol is also way less forgiving when lean but way more tolerable when rich / safe .
Having 1 o2 sensor is kinda useless as its only a avg of you 4 cylinders say 12:1 ,2cyl  could be dead on , 1cyl lean and 1cyl rich result is still 12:1.
bad news especially on methanol so time to add EGT probes to you Data .
here is my layout .its mounted on a pvc board which is easy to bend and  non conductive as well as hides under the passenger seat .
actually everything on the WOK is designed when seats are in everything mostly disappears .
-- don't worry about the blue/blk wire looped there that's for ECMS in test mode/not permanent .
 you get a idea of the layout and can see the yellow wires at the left that's the 4 egt temp probe wiring . and the 2 clear tubes are for crankcase vacuum and boost pressure .
 
this is a better shot of the layout of egt


and the main data board .
it consists of starting at top , TC-4 , LM2 , and a old LM3 and between the 2 electrical blocks is a vacuum/pressure sensor
 it really helps having a well laid out wiring plan and well labeled as trust me when there is a issue its way easier to trace





so what does it all do and what does it look like . well there are 2 ways to review data .first is recorded in car onto a sd card and looked at later in the trailer or home
or live on the p.c screen
-- more to come going water skiing
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« Reply #383 on: August 27, 2020, 07:46:28 PM »
Back from water skiing and a bit sore.

Decided time to complete interior .
A few things needed doing.
All door hardware swapped To aluminum and door  panel Back on , check.
Nightstick shifter rotated so wiring exits on drivers side not passanger
And of course a new connector installed and wiring rerouted.check.
  No picture will cover shifter later. , fyi it’s been run/tested in 2 fast cars this weekend in the good old USA, sweet.
Now time to remount the rear view mirror and visor unit And shift light reposition , ya no .
Yep with a roll bar in the way the original visor is 2 wide as well cannot flip outa the way .
So time for some fun,
Let’s mill up a new 3/4 length visor out my favourite 4 mm pvc plate .
Cut Out with the jig saw , sanded smooth , time to mill a new mounting slot.

Reassembled and Installed in  the car, not bad

Now decided to heat it and contour it around the frt halo , if not it still would not flip out The way completely due to halo contact,
Better now

You can also see I have rewired the shift light and mounted it to mirror shaft , check.
Interior rebuild and upgrade Almost completed,
Lower window net mount , then seat back in and bleed clutch.
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« Reply #384 on: August 30, 2020, 06:13:01 PM »
well back to work , very nice having a long break .
but over the weekend reinstalled lower seat frame .
and temp installed drivers seat , while a wait for window net to arrive which should be next week .
will trim upper seat mounting plate after im happy with final seat location but slightly rounded corners for safety and gave it some bling.

this gave me a chance to work on the seat backrest support .
now its only required to have the min of the centre of the seat supported but will most likely do the better option of 2 outer supports .
better in case of a accident as more load is distributed as well as the seat is more sold due to less rock .
all made of 3/16 6061 aluminum .you can see the start here .2" wide support that will bolt to the back of seat and the 2 outer sections that will mount to roll bar .
centre section is there in case the dual outer mounting method does not work and I go centre single .if not will remove it and keep a small section to help with belt separation .
more work to do and machine the mounting lugs.
but the best thing is I get to bling it up and do some aluminum Tig welding .always the most fun .





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« Reply #385 on: September 11, 2020, 10:54:29 AM »
Great project and it’s done , Check that off the list.
Seat backrest mount completed . Cutting , welding , drilling
Milling, filing, sanding, bling all the tools used .





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« Reply #386 on: September 11, 2020, 04:24:20 PM »
In and mounted



It’s completely solid with no rock at all
Also can be moved fwd and backwards about another 1.250” .
No sense drilling any more holes till I road test it
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And with the seat cover on its the most comfortable snug
Decision I’ve made and with my Hans devise it’s perfect



Window net arrived and have a slight issue , that’s ok there making me
Another one .
Bleeding clutch now . And hey might insure and go for a spin in the next few weeks
1 last interior step and completed come on window net

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« Reply #387 on: October 23, 2020, 08:37:13 AM »
this is the data run from running 9.8 sec . looks real good .huh ?
well for me anyways  because I'm used to looking at it . and I see some issues right away as well as key information I was looking for .
now the program I use is from innovate motorsports called logworks , real easy to use and play with .
of course there are bells and whistles but also great programs to configure and map your recorded data .
everything is in the end just a 0-5v input with exception of rpm and you configure from there .
if you want examples let me know .anyway lets expand areas and break it down into what I'm looking at .
               

nothing beats the old seat of the pants tuning ! only you know what it felt like , sounded like ,and performed like .
so after every run I make notes and usually my girls help entre data and keep notes to help in review on the spot or later .
  this 9.8 sec pass was far from perfect but shows I'm getting real good at complete vehicle tuning. there is so much more than making some power .
I was still setting up suspension , shift points , ECMS control , boost curves ect ect but figured it was time to really see if I was making headway .
  Launch - not my best but still another low 1.4 60 foot , so what did if feel like .I could tell there was a bit of sideways slip . maybe due to tire spin?
or bad weight transfer . well lets look .
first these are all the items I log and can select or deselect any of them at any time
               

so pull up the hide channels and turn off what I don't need as well as for your ease of viewing inverted my clutch pedal reading
               

so what have I done , first expanded the view
 
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« Reply #388 on: October 26, 2020, 04:53:20 PM »
well last piece of the 8.50 cert completed .

  modified the bottom window net bar with rod-end so I could adjust as needed , the 2 bottom brackets are also slotted
to allow for net stretch so I can pull it tight again if needed .
very happy worked out great



lower bar inserted through lower window net and bolted to brackets .
fits and works very well



and with the door closed sfi tag and stroud tag outa view .



  now the window net did not need to be installed to be certified, but I just wanted the interior done ,
So can now check that off the list .
  guess its time to pull the motor out for engine maintenance.
good thing I cleaned the shop
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« Reply #389 on: October 26, 2020, 06:53:59 PM »
60' what is so important about the first 60'
  well really its just a point of reference ,but that first 60' sure make a huge difference on the balance of the run .
usually if it doesn't go well the rest of the pass follows poorly, but when its smooth and consistent the balance of the run just seams way better as well .

racers look for consistency and having a car that is all over the map on Launch is no fun and a consistent looser   .
BUT if you can nail out back to back 60' times you are defiantly having the advantage .
for me I was all over the map , this not only sucks but is hard on driveline as well as it does not allow you to judge your cars performance down the track
as your MPH and E.T are also all over the map .
with the ECMS installed I have been able to nail out very low consistent 60' times which allows me to better judge my vehicle REAL performance potential .
I have averaged depending on the day anywhere  from 4-6 passes in a row between 1.404 - 1.420 sec ,very smooth and consistent .

lets look at 2 passes in this case run #4 (10.112 @139.99) and run #6 (9.83 @ 143.44)
    yes if you look at the tabs its session #5 and 7 . that ia because session#1 is always a pretest for me anyway .

  first run#4 ,like I said I was testing different ECMS settings and this one was very good .
the 1st marker line (left)is the point the vehicle starts to move and the 2nd line (right) is 60' mark 1:30.60 + 1.412 = 1:32.01
 lets start from the bottom up .note; look closely at each point of change and see what point lines up with what .
RED - that is the point the ECMS solenoid energises  and 1.15 sec later it shuts off
YELLOW - clutch position ,notice it starts to engage first then at a specific point the RED ( ECMS solenoid energises )
BLACK - sideways G force , not bad a small push left then snaps back during shift to 2nd ( time to add preload to left torsion huh?)
GREEN - RPM follow it and see if you can figure out whats happening
BLUE - G force forward acceleration , line up with point the ECMS solenoid energises, again see what it line up with



  run#6 ,like I said I was testing different ECMS settings and this one was set very aggressive (hmm) .
the 1st marker line (left)is the point the vehicle starts to move and the 2nd line (right) is 60' mark 54.72 + 1.445 = 56.16 sec
 again lets start from the bottom up .note; look closely at each point of change and see what point lines up with what .
RED - that is the point the ECMS solenoid energises  and 1.15 sec later it shuts off
YELLOW - clutch position ,notice it starts to engage first then at a specific point the RED ( ECMS solenoid energises )
BLACK - sideways G force , yep help shows things were not as fwd but obvious issue of some type
GREEN - RPM focuss on rpm rise at point between blue peaks
BLUE - G force forward acceleration , hmm something not good car is obviously pulls hard to 2 g , holds there then looses acceleration then regains it .

now you can see how important data is and what you can start to learn from it , making notes as soon as you get back to trailer ,making notes on time slips ect .
also now take this data and if you are lucky enough to have a video watch it slowly frame by frame and plot against your data .
you will see a lot



lets see how this shows up on the computer screen , not sure if its clear enough but will try .
   overlay is the option of taking any segment from 1 session and pasting it onto another session for comparison   ,so I have clipped the same Launch section from run #4 and overlaid it onto run #6
using the same point of foreword acceleration and solenoid engagement as the reference point .
I have removed the sideways force just to make things easier to see .

now remember the ONLY difference on this pass was ECMS settings . which was a combination of engagement point and rate of engagement
 -- RED - same point solenoid is energised and still de-energised 1.5 sec later ( time can easily be cut to .5-.7 sec )as its work is performed way earlier
-- YELLOW - clutch position -  solid yellow 1.445 vs the dotted yellow 1.412 . solid yellow (AGRESSIVE)  starting point .  then climbs fast to 2nd point then climbs fast again to 3rd plateau or full engagement .
where as the dotted yellow line (LESS AGRESSIVE and SMOOTHER) same starting point  . then climbs slower to 2nd point and flat lines there before smoothly climbing to  3rd plateau or full engagement .
what's happening here is the settings in the ECMS is controlling the clutch engagement rate as well as holding a calculated amount of slip before disengaging and controlling rate to full engagement , pretty f--- cool huh  .shit works and like I said its a complete topic on its own but further testing with my USA boys are on hold due to covid  .
-- BLUE and GREEN -- this needs to be looked at together .lets focus on the solid BLUE (g force/acceleration) and Solid GREEN (RPM).
from the vertical line we see the blue line spike up to 2 g's and at the same time the rpm drops from 5600 to like 5300 rpm , then both BLUE and GREEN traces flat line (that is the rear suspension planting down hard most likely on the end stops ) this causes the wheels to spin a bit so the RPM climbs fast as well as the G Force acceleration dropps quickly due to loss of forward acceleration , then about half way between the vertical lines the RPM rate starts to climb at a normal rate which is the same point the vehicle regains traction and the G Force acceleration climbs again .
So know look at the Dotted BLUE and GREEN lines the BLUE acceleration line is delayed and climes smoother as well as the RPM also climbes at the same controlled rate .
 I think you can figure out what's going on here and what was learned from both passes .also what works better for my vehicle .
yep so now you see what a racer look at consistent smooth launches and 60' times -
so you can think like this kindove . 1.445 - 1.412 =.033 sec so 9.830 sec - .033 sec = 9.797 sec .
 I know this is a lot to take in god only covered 60' but hope it makes sense the rest is easy  and I know I'm not giving away to much on ECMS as its a Huge Topic in itself and has  taken years to get to this point



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