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irs axle bearing play
« on: June 19, 2011, 12:53:32 PM »
putting the rear stub axles in and seem to have play in the outer roller bearing .normal?




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Re: irs axle bearing play
« Reply #1 on: June 21, 2011, 06:15:20 AM »
anyone replace there rear irs bearings give me a call .
i was supprised to find out there are  different roller bearing clearances allowing for thermal expansion depending on a /xx suffix . no clearance , 0.0015" and 0.003 " the brand i recieved was a german set with no suffix so i would assume it was a zero clearace set .but no just another set of crap with clearance on 1 bearing at 0.003 and the other just under 0.004".what a waste of time .
also it is possible to replace the ball/roller set-up with tappered rollers , will due this this winter




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Re: irs axle bearing play
« Reply #2 on: June 21, 2011, 07:31:23 AM »
I wonder if you might be over thinking it. IRS bearing failure is very, very rare, especially on a car that gets only a few thousand KMs a year. I'd be looking at the stub tolernaces pretty closely. Which stubs?

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Re: irs axle bearing play
« Reply #3 on: June 21, 2011, 07:52:48 AM »
Are you talking about "C" designations for bearings?  Bearings come in a (tight)c2 - c5(loose) clearance designation. Anytime you have motors with more heat or extreme enviroments involved you want more clearance.  All electric motors running continous duty usually have C3 bearings which are looser .  Bearings found at napa are normal clearance  "CN" , you have to specialy ask for any bearing other than "CN" designated bearings, from places like BC bearing, Kamen Industrial, NTN.  Its amazing how we find out this stuff, I only found out about different bearing clearances about 2 years ago, our one machine kept eating Napa bearings up every 4 months and I was tired of spending 3 hours rebuilding it for the 5th time, when the first set of bearings lasted almost 10 years.  I  phoned the bearing company about the lack of quality in bearings cause I was fed up, only to be told that I was buying the wrong bearing.. I need bearings with more clearance for electric motors, and I went HUH! never even new they made bearings with more or less clearance depending on application.  

But your play is amazing though, a normal clearance bearing is a tighter bearing, so there should not be a huge amount of play.  Is it the bearing that is actually causing the play, or stub shaft fit in the bearing?  Did you put in the spacer on the back side of stub (closest to cv)with the taper the right way? One side has a taper one side is flat, maybe this is holding the stub shaft from not seating all the way in if in backwards? That is crazy if it is the bearing though.  Your good german core is probably still better than that.

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Re: irs axle bearing play
« Reply #4 on: June 21, 2011, 01:26:08 PM »
yes billy you are correct the "c" rating is what im on about -- the outer roller bearing i have now is just under 0.002" dry -- tried it last night and i'm much happier . very little rear stub axle movement -- bearing p#skf ma12060-uv  this is a c3 rated bearing -




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Re: irs axle bearing play
« Reply #5 on: June 21, 2011, 05:01:00 PM »
Given what Kev said about the recommended use for the different clearance, it makes sense to use the loose one.  They are intended to be run for hours at a time.  You sure wouldn't want the bearing to tighten up as it got warm.