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General Forums => VW Club Corner => Topic started by: steveo_32 on November 03, 2006, 07:44:43 PM
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Any of you guys have picts of NHRA cages built for the 56 bug i have?
I have seen lots of nice ones but I just want to make sure i build it right the first time
Cheers!!
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Anyone have picts of their build up of a cage?
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go to members section and look through my posts on my car build up , if i remember there was a bunch of photos relating to my cage,it should help
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Theres a few guys on here that do cages, but good luck getting them to come out and have a look.
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Chief Chassis - mine is going in this winter for a 6 point.
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What is an estimate for a 6 point welded in? I am thinking of one also
Kevin
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Guessing under 2K - Going with Chromoly.
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Chief Chassis
exactly.
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Guessing under 2K - Going with Chromoly.
Wow I was thinking approx $800.00 absolute max based on what I did and how long it took me, being that I don't do this all the time.
When I bent my hoop and did the down bar it took me approx 2 - 2.5 hours from start to finish, bent, welded and bolted it in the car, this included taking all my tools out setting up making a template for shape, and putting padding on. Metal cost was $88.00 for mine which had 21' of pipe. Are they really that much? Only difference in what I did and what is required for NHRA is thicker wall pipe, and 1 side , and 1 hoop down bar.
Kevin
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200-250 per point is a normal charge for Chromoly plus tying into the frame horns etc...
When it comes to safety I wouldn't want anyone other than a professional doing the work.
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I didnt think he charged that much
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This is going on what Jimmy said, I haven't spoken to them yet.
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5 point ..4140 moly with one swing out..and you will want one ..trust me on that, or you can ask G-Dog how he likes getting in and out of his car i had my done in oct/04 $ 2400.00 save your pennies as we all know metal has gone up .. Darren
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Yes - I am going swing out on the drivers and solid on the passenger. I am going to enquire about bringing my own steel - we get a pretty good price due to quantity here at the Shipyard. Just need to find out if I can get the appropriate stuff as the Chromo is a weird sizing (wall thinkness isn't standard)
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i'm sure i paid around 1500 give or take for a 6 point no swing cage including the 2 drop links to the rear cradle-
-note i'm not a expert in this area but was told , mild steel works better in a crash as it will deform instead of snap so i'm told.
better get the wall thickness for the chromoly as i seam to remember at the time i was doing mine he had a hard time getting it and i don't think the difference in weight was worth the price.
anyway i'm glad to see everyone thinking of getting cages as there is NO price for safety
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Weight wise I am looking at around 35% difference between Chromo and Mild; I think it justifies the cost for that amount of weight.
Mild steel you need to use 1 5/8thOD .134 wall
Chromo is 1 5/8thOD .83 wall
Plus you get the nice Tig weld on the Chromoly.
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Matt Davis is making weld in cages in 4, 6, and 8 point, both Chromoly and Mild Steel. I think I'm going to get one from him, and have it shipped. If I can find a few people interested, perhaps we can save on the cost.
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What kinda price are you looking at for one of those?
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CrMo is 30% lighter, 20% stronger, and 200% tougher to weld. Prone to cracking if not done right. Pay the money and git it done right!
BTW - you should get your welds magnetic particle tested (magnafluxed) after welding is complete. There have been a rash of cracked welds discovered in the last three or so years during tech at the track. (Greg is an old buddy and a retired NDT Tech).
Csaba
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Matt Davis is making weld in cages in 4, 6, and 8 point, both Chromoly and Mild Steel. I think I'm going to get one from him, and have it shipped. If I can find a few people interested, perhaps we can save on the cost.
Funny, I just PM him a few days ago asking the same question just before this post started, but I have not heard back from him yet.. Maybe he is gone or having computer troubles.
If we could do a group buy that would be great.
Kevin
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I came across a Kelowna business RH Race cars that does cages, he donated a 8 point cage for any car with install valued at $1000.00 for the awards banquet for the track here.
This works out to $125.00 per point. I e-mailed him today for a beetle roll bar legal to 11.0 and will post what he comes back with for chromolly and mild steel.
Kevin
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OK I received a reply back from RH race cars here is what he replied with.
A roll bar which is legal to 10.00 seconds will be about 800.00 mild and
1200.00 moly
mild steel cage will run you about 1200.00 and a
moly one around 1700.00 certified to 8.5 seconds
Wow a pretty good price.
Kevin
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5 point ..4140 moly with one swing out..and you will want one ..trust me on that, or you can ask G-Dog how he likes getting in and out of his car i had my done in oct/04 $ 2400.00 save your pennies as we all know metal has gone up .. Darren
Like Darren said ,I really advise installing a removable drivers shoulder bar ..I'm gonna retrofit one &that won't be cheap after the fact!
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Wow, thats a pretty good price Kev. Kelowna might be worth the trip....... once the snow dissapears.