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General Forums => Member's VW's => Topic started by: OUTKAST on January 20, 2004, 01:32:09 PM
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:) red snapper insisted i get on board ,been out of the loop to long .been into the vw scenesince 84 16 volkswagens so far. current ride last 6 years 57 kombi unrestored just made driveable ,lack of space and money for rebuild right now soon as i figure out how to load a photo i will computer challenged is the correct term i guess
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Moose, welcome! its good to see another Thunderbug!
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WOW Thunderbugs, I have`nt heard that since I was buying pats from CIP when they were on kingsway probably around 15 years ago.My friends neighbour Art was part of the thunderbugs.He has a really nice late 50`s conv Ghia in his garage waiting to be finished.
cheers shawn
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Wecome outkast! You wouldn't be from the Salmon arm area?
Bugsmell! I remember Art! I also remember that ghia. Is it finished now?
If you ever see art say hello from old Hans from the thunder bug days.
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Salmon Arm was a good guess!Are thunderbug members considered old school now. Curiuos about Tony hill , is he still around . will try to get some current photos of bus done on weekend best find garage sailing this year was 3/4 lenght roofrack for bus, was scabbed on to 84 chevy crewcab pickup 40$ Another 200$ and he would have given me the truck.
Red snapper give me a call fri Or try e- mailing me ,working !@#$%* afternoon shifts right now
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Hey Outkast welcome,
last year i moved to maple ridge right across the street from Tony Hill. two weeks later there was a 4-sale sign in his front yard.He took me for a tour through his garage, WOW that guy has some serious stuff.before he moved to the island he sold alot of his stuff including his dyno :( .
Hi Hans, I saw Art last night. I will say hi for sure,no unfortunatly the ghia is still in his garage completly stripped sitting under a bunch of stuff including a canoe :o
shawn
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Salmon Arm, is that near the Alberta border? Just kidding Marty. Hey bugsmell, is your friends ghia for sale? I was in Thunderbugs for quite some time and Im trying to figure out who Art is. Hans?
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Hey Red,
I dont think his Ghia is for sale.Art is a short guy that works for tellus,really nice guy, sure knows alot about VW`s thats for sure.Hans might know more about him than i do.I usually talk to him when he comes over to cales to see what`s going on when we are out messin with the bugs.
shawn
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Cameron Shorey is also on here and a ex thunderbug member. Speak up Cam.
If any of the old Thunderbugs have pic's from back in the day please post them for the new generation to see, There were some nice cars in that club back in the day.
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Salmon Arm was a good guess!Are thunderbug members considered old school now. Curiuos about Tony hill , is he still around . will try to get some current photos of bus done on weekend best find garage sailing this year was 3/4 lenght roofrack for bus, was scabbed on to 84 chevy crewcab pickup 40$ Another 200$ and he would have given me the truck.
Red snapper give me a call fri Or try e- mailing me ,working !@#$%* afternoon shifts right now
Marty, I dont think Thunderbugs are considered \"old school\" Just OLD!
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Snapper, Old isn't what I was LOOKING fOR, old school usually means that it is now considered cool, retro Thunderbugs was a pretty 70's name .Hans do you remember who came up with the name.Thanks for the update on tony hil
Anybody know what happened to Doug giesbrecht ,He was the one I credit for getting me hooked on busses. Would be neat to find old club listings ,Have some thunderbug photos kicking around ,might take a while but might try to get some scanned into my OLD computer .GOTTO go make some cash to pay the bills talk later
OUTKAST
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I occasionally look at the AirSpeed Forum, but mostly have been lurking.
Hello Marty, Geoff, Shawn, Brian, Hans, Art and all you other old timers, who maybe lurking also. Marty it was good to see you in Seattle.
I have some pics from the old days, but have not scanned them yet. Think about this, Thunderbugs was incorporated in 1978, and the club had been around for a few years before that. \"Old\" is correct!
Cameron
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HI Cam hope to see you again soon ,along with the rest of you.Hey Snapper if you can post those pics I e-mailed you put them on this topic. Check back later
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Sorry OUTKAST, but my computer skills are very limited. Maybe I can forward these picture to someone else to post.If you dont mind. I especially like the one of you in the tube top!!!!!!! :lol: Brian
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:huh: I thought you got the one with the thong snapper . Go ahead and see about getting those CLEAN photos on . The 86 GTI has the newer bumper skins and lowered suspension , my temporary wheels till I decide what to haul the family around in, possibly a jetta
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Hey , Good to hear from ya .......\"outkast\" I met Doug Giesbrecht at
the GCVWS last summer! He's living in Alberta somewhere north
of Calgary. He still has a ghia I believe he said. Art had a 71/ 72ish (I think)blue std bug , big motor , one of
the faster cars of the time I recall. 1980ish that would have been.
bugsmell, is this Shawn S. of red 67 fame?
Anyone remember Sylvester(orange super) ? I still remember him doing dounuts at some of the local slolums . Seemed like at least once during an event he'd screw up a corner then just stand on it creating instant valve float and a cloud of tire smoke and 2 or 3 dounuts. Had every one cheering. those were the days!
Hello Cam!! I'm going to make me and ed's one of these days.
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No sorry Hans I just used to buy my bug parts from CIP years ago and allways dreamed of becoming part of the thunderbugs though
shawn
btw I havn`t seen Art yet but when i do i will tell him to look up the forums.
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Hey Hans, the person your refering to is Shawn S, also another thunderbug. He goes by shashimo. Hes on the forum now and then.
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Ah Ha - different Shawn, .....got it. Last I hear of Tony Hill is he's on the Island and did some eng. or trans work for a car collector guy that bought a 53 split from a friend of mine. This collector also bought Tony's drag car.
Marty, I wasn't in the thunderbugs at thier start.(I'm not that old :lol: ) Probably 80-84ish
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HANS I still havee a A.C.C.O.R. atuomotive sign up in my workshop,now that's a shop that's been gone for a while wich would make you older than me seeing as how I went there when I was 16 and I aint 16 anymore
What about your old gang Gordon/ graff /Reece /Gary/ and Neilson to name the ones I remember
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Yes I remember all you little punks hanging around that place :P .
M.Gordon is in auto wrecking localy , F. Graff just bought a glass buggy and will join us on the Oragon dunes this march, Reece has the ex- John Haftner Cyotte(sp?) multi chanpionship slolom and autocross historical buggy , Gary is at CIP , P. Neilson is in Winterpeg, Corry D. has an auto service shop in Langley, there's more I'm sure but............ :blink:
you must have one of the misprints- it was a.c.o.r.r.
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I occasionally look at the AirSpeed Forum, but mostly have been lurking.
Hello Marty, Geoff, Shawn, Brian, Hans, Art and all you other old timers, who maybe lurking also. Marty it was good to see you in Seattle.
I have some pics from the old days, but have not scanned them yet. Think about this, Thunderbugs was incorporated in 1978, and the club had been around for a few years before that. \"Old\" is correct!
Cameron
Here's some pictures Cameron sent me yesterday to show how \"Old\" really looks:
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This is what Mission Raceway looked like back in 1977/78.
The beige beetle is \"Fritz the car\". This was even before I joined the Thunderbugs!
Art
PS. Once I get some \"old\" TB pix scanned I'll post them in the Photo Gallery.
It's nice to see the Air Cooled VW scene is still thriving after all these years!
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Hey SRATCHY
thanks for posting those , quite a difference from then and now. Looked like quite a good turnout.looked like a couple of rails in the pictures , do you know if they were vw powered. didyou find the link for the couple of pictures i managed to have a friend post for me
hope to talk later.
http://mowser.hypermart.net/marty.htm (http://mowser.hypermart.net/marty.htm)
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Hey Art! Is that you? Awesome pic's ! Now I know I'm not that old because when I joined I was just a little punk and mission was already closed :D
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Yes it's me but they are Cameron's pix. Mission was closed by the time I joined the club too, so I guess that makes Cameron a REAL
old-timer ;) Sad but true, I've never raced any vehicle at Mission Raceway. By the time it opened up again, I had sold all my AirCooled VWs.
I guess I will just have to start working on the old 58' Ghia 'vert again, and put my neighbor (69bajakid) back in his place... B)
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Right on! Good to hear from you Art! You really should finish that ghia for sure!!
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Hey Art, nice to see you on the forums. I guess you know some of these guys, kewl .[I guess I will just have to start working on the old 58' Ghia 'vert again, and put my neighbor (69bajakid) back in his place...]LOL too funny.
shawn
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BTW, is that Geoff in the bottom left corner of the pic checking out the trike :mullet: :lol:
shawn
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Art! Thanks for posting/hosting those pictures.
I took those pictures in 1977 and 1978, from the top of the Mission R/way tower. Top two pics are from 1978, the bottom two (overlapped/together) are from 1977. This was a time when flared fenders were cool. All the hot cars had flared fenders! (My car has never had flared fenders, but at that time it was not \"hot\".) Fast race cars were running in the mid 13's.
There are two rails in the bottom picture. The left one was Gene Berg's Little but Quick, but he did not own it at the time. The Berg family has since bought it back. I don't know anything about the other rail. Jim Sibley had his rail there also, but it is not in the pics. All of the rails were VW powered at the time. Sibley has since gone to Porsche power.
There was drag racing, and drag slalom. There was no swap meet. The only dealer display was from Bow Wow, with a portable picnic table with a few basic items. Bow Wow did supply the trophy plaques. There was an engine pull. I know that one group pulled an engine, and it took them the rest of the day to get it back in. The release bearing had exploded, and they only entered so they could use the tools, but it took them a long time to find another release bearing.
The new Mission Raceway's races have grown substantially over the years. I doubt that they would have time for a VW only event now.
Cameron
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Cool pic's Cam!! Looks like a chop top bug at the right
of the last pic. also. So how many of these events were
held? Who owned the Berg little dragster then? What
time's did it run? I have many more ? but I'll leave it at that for now.
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THANK's Cam for the info on the rails I'd like to find some better pictures of them sometime.A couple of vw trends ago there was a fellow who made a nice looking vw powered slingshot style dragster, totally cool. I thought Cory Dole had a dragster frame kicking around for a while that he was going to build . Is sibley local or from out of town . I won't overload you also . Talk to you soon
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I don't know who owned Berg's Little but Quick at that time. I'll fire off an email, and find out. I did not pay much attention to it back then, so I don't know what times it was turning. The chop top bug has been around for years too. I think it's still around, I can't remember the name of the present owner (from North Van), but he used to go out to Mission Raceway every once in a while. Jim Sibley is from Bellingham Wa. He has run a VW repair shop in Bellingham for years. Still in business, but they now work on all German cars. I ran into Corey Doell and Shawn (Graf?) at the border, a couple of summers ago. They were buying a VW van for Shawn. He seems to very busy with domestic cars now, and not much time for the VW racing thing. Of course, things may have changed since then. Does anybody know if Corey has email? Is he still interested in VWs?
Cameron
p.s. I have more photos from the past. Will eventually post in the \"Members Photos\" section, but I have to around to scanning them first.
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Thanks Cam did you find the site my friend made for me with my pictures. Can't wait to see more old photos. Wonder if mission raceway has old photos accesable to the public, might be some nice close -ups of some of the older vw's .
talk yo you later
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Thanks Cam! BTW it's definitely NOT Shawn ( Graff) That's old history.
Corey is very busy with his business but told me last summer that he
allmost bought a glass buggy once but generally hate's car's, ...... :huh: whatever.
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Hey hans ,Cory will come around eventualy, we all do some just take a longer break than others. Tell me where abouts are you on your single cab. Do you remember I almost tried to buy it but I think Carmen PERSUEDED me that it wasn't a good time . I'm very fortunate though she loves the bus and would never let me part with it. she has accepted the vw in the drive way always mantra. What does your wife think about your vw fixation. If you have photos of the pickup try and get them posted I would like to see them
Later OUTKAST
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Hey Outkast,
Eventually could be a very long time.....
I bought my Ghia from Cory in 1983. I sensed he was already getting fed up with VW's at that time, so I'd say it's been 20 years
since he \"let go\". People's priorities change over time and as they get older. Some things are also just fads or stages in ones life.
It's really hard to say if he's going to \"break\".
I just remember Cory towing the black Ghia vert from Surrey to North Van behind his little Suzuki Samurai, and the Ghia pushing
the back end of the Samurai out in the corners.... He seemed happy to get rid of the Ghia back then already.
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You never know scratchy. Do you have any pictures of your ghia,I'd like to see them .
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Hey Marty,
Last I heard Frank Graf works for ICBC and Garry works in the warehouse for California Imports
Mike Gordon-who knows??
Shawn
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Also,
Cory has a shop in Port.Kells, I can't remember the name of it now.
Shawn
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You never know scratchy. Do you have any pictures of your ghia,I'd like to see them .
Here's about the only one I have that's been printed.
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The rest are still just negatives, as I gave away the prints to \"Bondo Billy\", the guy that did a lot of the rustoration
work on the Ghia. It was so bad, the front and rear sections just fell apart when I removed the floorpan.
The doorsill/heater channels where totally shot on both sides. I just threw the 3 pieces in a trailer and hauled it down
to Redi-strip metals where they stripped and then phosphated the pan, front and back. The floor pan was like cheese cloth
once they were done with it. I ended up buying some epoxy from Industrial Formulators and fiberglassing the 2 pan halves
with it. So far it seems to have held together. Nowadays I would just buy replacement pan halves, but nodody made them
back in those days.
The other beetles are (from left to right) 66, 69 - turning into my baja, 70 street bug.
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Thanks for posting the pics , garage looks full enough. It may not be done yet ut the main thing is you still have it. The stuff is getting harder to find and more $$$ when you do find something. I was thinking we should pick a meeting spot at great canadian say 12:00 for the old thunderbug members to meet so we can put some faces with names . I'm going to try and make it,I still have a club jacket some where, doesn't fit to well. talk to you later