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Title: Help Me Id This Late Model Beetle
Post by: Stephan Schmidt on February 08, 2005, 10:34:17 PM: my brother found this orange late model beelte sitting at a house today and we went and took a lot at it.

The car has:

swingaxle transmission
full black/padded dash
straight windshield so its a standard
those half moon shaped vents behind the rear quarter windows.

now, I thought those moon shaped vents came on 71's and newers, but it has a swingaxle tranny, etc...

could it be a Standard? It has no chrome around the windows, and no body chrome either, but those could have been changed.

Thanks, Stephan
Title: Help Me Id This Late Model Beetle
Post by: Stephan Schmidt on February 08, 2005, 10:38:28 PM: oh, and thats 4 spoke steering wheel
Title: Help Me Id This Late Model Beetle
Post by: dannyboy on February 08, 2005, 10:42:40 PM: check the vins
but yes there are late model standard beetles that came with swings
i think mexi beetles are swing (bruce correct me if im wrong)
Title: Help Me Id This Late Model Beetle
Post by: ryanmacneil8448 on February 08, 2005, 10:43:56 PM: i have a '71 with a swing axle witch i thought was strange. someone told me its a candian standard if thats any help i have all those features except the steering wheel so i would guess yours to be a 72 or newer
Title: Help Me Id This Late Model Beetle
Post by: ryanmacneil8448 on February 08, 2005, 10:44:53 PM: i spelt canadian wrong oops :blink:
Title: Help Me Id This Late Model Beetle
Post by: Stephan Schmidt on February 08, 2005, 11:12:31 PM: thanks dan, I think I will do that.

Ryan, I think you may be right. I think it is a 72 Standard.

I remember bruce talking to me about these cars.

Stephan
Title: Help Me Id This Late Model Beetle
Post by: Bruce on February 09, 2005, 01:51:43 AM: Check the paint. I think you will find it is not an original orange car.
Title: Help Me Id This Late Model Beetle
Post by: ryanmacneil8448 on February 09, 2005, 07:40:14 AM: was orange not a coulor? because mine was orange at one point
Title: Help Me Id This Late Model Beetle
Post by: Stephan Schmidt on February 09, 2005, 09:16:15 AM: Quote
Check the paint. I think you will find it is not an original orange car.
do you know of this car bruce? it was dark outside so we had a very quic glace.

anything you can tell me about this car?
Title: Help Me Id This Late Model Beetle
Post by: Bruce on February 09, 2005, 12:45:40 PM: Quote
was orange not a coulor? because mine was orange at one point
Yes orange is a colour, just like red and green. Someone could have painted any car any colour, but VW never painted standard beetles a colour they called \"orange\". All were Supers.
There is one colour everyone would call orange that was applied to standard Beetles in 74, but for some strange reason VW called it a red.
Title: Help Me Id This Late Model Beetle
Post by: ryanmacneil8448 on February 09, 2005, 07:27:28 PM: oh
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Post by: Hansk on February 09, 2005, 08:40:59 PM: Quote

The car has:

straight windshield so its a standard

Just because it's a flat windshield does'nt mean it's a standard. 71&72 supers had flat windshields. It would not surprise me if someone stuck a swing axle tranny in their super.Seen it before.
That being said , if it is a Canadian Standard it should have a small headliner too. I have had a 73 swing and a 75 IRS \"Canadian Standard \".

Hey Bruce , we keep calling them \"Canadian Standard\" but what did VW Canada officially refer to them as?
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Post by: dannyboy on February 09, 2005, 08:58:49 PM: hey hans, thats weird cause i had a 71or 72 std with a swingaxle tranny, but it had the regular headliner
Title: Help Me Id This Late Model Beetle
Post by: Stephan Schmidt on February 09, 2005, 09:42:37 PM: correction on my part...yes, 71-72 supers did have flat windshields.

The car does have a swingaxle tranny, and the Ball joint front end, but like Dan said, it has the full headliner..could it still be a standard?

I believe that standards were made to get rid of the left over inventory VW had and to create the cheapest beetle that they could. they probably had many mixed up parts :P.

Stephan
Title: Help Me Id This Late Model Beetle
Post by: ryanmacneil8448 on February 09, 2005, 10:15:15 PM: mine has the full headliner to
Title: Help Me Id This Late Model Beetle
Post by: Bruce on February 10, 2005, 03:08:17 AM: Quote

I believe that standards were made to get rid of the left over inventory VW had and to create the cheapest beetle that they could. they probably had many mixed up parts :P.
Nope, swing axle transmissions weren't \"leftover\" parts. Remember that IRS cars were a small minority of Beetle production around the world. But you are right about saving money. Swing axle is cheaper to manufacture, and VW of Canada brought them in to compete against the new Japanese cars (Datsun 510, et.al.) I bet that orange car does not have chrome trim in the window rubber too. The build spec of those cars was carefully planned out by the marketing dept at VW of Canada to balance features with price. I bet that 72 doesn't have a gas heater in it either. If you wanted more features, you got a Super, which, in Canada, came stock with a gas heater in 72.
When you are building 4000 cars a day at Wolfsburg, there are no parts \"left over\". They don't have any space for excess inventory, and any manufacturing co knows that inventory is a waste of money. So to combat this they try to achieve just-in-time delivery of parts. They order what they know they need, no more, no less.

Hans, in the early days they were Standards and Deluxes. Then sometime in the early 70s they realized the name \"standard\" wasn't flattering, so they officially refered to them as \"Custom\". They never ever refered to them as \"Canadian Standard\". That's just something created because the Americans can't comprehend any swing axle cars after 68.
Title: Help Me Id This Late Model Beetle
Post by: ryanmacneil8448 on February 10, 2005, 07:23:56 AM: mine had a gas heater
maybe dealer installed?
Title: Help Me Id This Late Model Beetle
Post by: Stephan Schmidt on February 10, 2005, 08:18:03 AM: Right on Bruce.

you are right, no chrome around the windows either.

I guess we'll all find out when my brother gets the car :P

Stephan
Title: Help Me Id This Late Model Beetle
Post by: hotvw1 on February 10, 2005, 08:53:13 AM: Please check the vin as I am looking for my mom's old car vin# 1122143589 Model # 113141. Colour was Bright Orange. It is/was a 1972. Let me know thx.
Colin
Title: Help Me Id This Late Model Beetle
Post by: Stephan Schmidt on February 10, 2005, 11:50:14 AM: Quote
Please check the vin as I am looking for my mom's old car vin# 1122143589 Model # 113141. Colour was Bright Orange. It is/was a 1972. Let me know thx.
Colin
I will let you know when I go to check out the car.

Was your mothers car a standard model, or a deluxe?
Title: Help Me Id This Late Model Beetle
Post by: Bruce on February 10, 2005, 01:21:29 PM: Quote
mine had a gas heater
maybe dealer installed?
Yours is a 71, I'm talking 72s.

Colin's mom's car is a Super (113141). I'm afraid to say its most likely dead since its never been tested by aircare.
Title: Help Me Id This Late Model Beetle
Post by: Stephan Schmidt on February 10, 2005, 01:48:09 PM: Quote

Quote
mine had a gas heater
maybe dealer installed?
Yours is a 71, I'm talking 72s.

Colin's mom's car is a Super (113141). I'm afraid to say its most likely dead since its never been tested by aircare.
:( thats sad news bruce

sorry colin, but it is a standard.

Stephan
Title: Help Me Id This Late Model Beetle
Post by: aircoolednewf on February 10, 2005, 06:48:55 PM: i had a 73 with the swing axel, full hedliner no chrome on the windows. it was light blue, and i still remember the paint code.lol L54D. it had a 4 spoke stearing wheel, and a gas heater. it originaly came from goose bay. there's a german air base there, i don't know if this makes a diference.
Title: Help Me Id This Late Model Beetle
Post by: hotvw1 on February 11, 2005, 10:52:24 AM: I know its probably dead. sigh. But I will keep looking. You never know. I just won't hold my breath. LOL

Colin
Title: Help Me Id This Late Model Beetle
Post by: Stephan Schmidt on February 11, 2005, 02:57:54 PM: Quote
i had a 73 with the swing axel, full hedliner no chrome on the windows. it was light blue, and i still remember the paint code.lol L54D. it had a 4 spoke stearing wheel, and a gas heater. it originaly came from goose bay. there's a german air base there, i don't know if this makes a diference.
I have yet to find out if it has a gas heater, but we'll see soon!

sounds similar but a different color

Stephan