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Title: Who makes 36hp "full flow" oil lines
Post by: Herrlowlight on March 18, 2016, 08:47:36 PM: Looking for a set of Denzel style oil lines/fittings for my 36hp motor. My preference is for the full flow set-up with larger Denzel style lines. The problem is those lines/fittings aren't available, so I'm looking for somebody who makes them.

Anybody have any suggestions?

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Trevor
Title: Re: Who makes 36hp "full flow" oil lines
Post by: josh on March 19, 2016, 12:12:51 AM: I'd never put a banjo fitting in an oil line,especially 4!!!
Title: Re: Who makes 36hp "full flow" oil lines
Post by: Bruce on March 19, 2016, 03:20:50 AM: Agreed, each one is a huge restriction to the high flow rate needed for your oil.
Title: Re: Who makes 36hp "full flow" oil lines
Post by: s3racing on March 19, 2016, 11:22:24 AM: Great for hydraulics but not made for oiling. Every system has its purpose and for Engine oiling these fittings were never made! Go for AN fittings lots of options for types of hose and really universal. Used them for my oil cooling and fuel lines. Best part you can make them yourself without a huge amount of tools!

Just my 2 cents
Title: Re: Who makes 36hp "full flow" oil lines
Post by: BUSDADDY on March 19, 2016, 12:26:38 PM: Bad idea or not I think Trevor is more interested in the look that optimum functionality. Those look just like the hydraulic lines found on German and French built aero engines and aircraft from the 1940's - 1960's, the goldish colored ones are reuseable, not sure about the silver ones, they look crimped. I'd search up some vintage European aero engine rebuilders for you, but the language barrier is more than I feel like dealing with right now so you'll have to do that yourself. Find a few and ask them where they get thier lines and fittings, don't rule out eastern European makes as well, many Czech and Polish engines use very similar stuff.
There's some serious restorers in the vintage aero game who can find or reproduce any part for a 100% correct restoration regardless of how old or rare it is, all you need is a fat enough wallet.
Title: Re: Who makes 36hp "full flow" oil lines
Post by: josh on March 19, 2016, 12:39:56 PM: I can totally appreciate the effort to get that correct look....they would finish off a vintage speed motor in a lowlight like nothing else!! I would not recommend running 100% of the motors lifeline through! What you could do is up the pump size and use this setup in the way a vintage speed fram should mount style? Where it takes a small sample of the oil to filter and dump back in sump? Get the "look" and a little bit of filtering but not gonna starve the bearings?
Title: Re: Who makes 36hp "full flow" oil lines
Post by: Herrlowlight on March 19, 2016, 05:01:04 PM: Hi Folks,

Thanks for the advice. Lots of people running vintage speed motors run bypass filters, although admittedly they aren't using the same banjo fittings. As s3racing says the ones in the picture are aircraft hoses and ends, I just need the banjo fittings.

As Josh says I'm going for the Denzel style with the bigger hoses. I'll dig around the vintage Aero stuff and see what I can do. Unfortunately getting a sample of the hoses for the correct measurements is a problem.. I need lengths, ID, fitting threads on each end etc... I do have the correct filter to start with. Hoping to get here:

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Trevor
Title: Re: Who makes 36hp "full flow" oil lines
Post by: BUSDADDY on March 19, 2016, 05:26:52 PM: Quote from: Herrlowlight on March 19, 2016, 05:01:04 PM
the ones in the picture are aircraft AN hoses and ends, I just need the AN banjo fittings.
Those are not AN fittings, they are European metric fittings, AN fittings are SAE thread and look dramatically different than those. They could be adapted someow but if it's the looks you are after AN will dissapoint, German DIN will likely be closer and already metric.
Title: Re: Who makes 36hp "full flow" oil lines
Post by: Herrlowlight on March 19, 2016, 05:28:42 PM: Thanks BusDaddy!

Trevor
Title: Re: Who makes 36hp "full flow" oil lines
Post by: Bruce on March 19, 2016, 06:51:03 PM: Late VW Autostick transmissions have flex oil lines with banjo fittings that will be metric. I may have some. Will check.
Title: Re: Who makes 36hp "full flow" oil lines
Post by: s3racing on March 19, 2016, 10:42:38 PM: If you find something in Europe that you need for this I could always bring it over the his summer. Of course just if your in no rush for it as I'll be landing in Canada end of June. Fittings or hoses I could for sure bring with me. As long as it would fit in a suit case lol.

René
Title: Re: Who makes 36hp "full flow" oil lines
Post by: silas on March 20, 2016, 05:32:08 PM: hey trevor, lots of good info and help here and i dont have much to add except i dig the look/style your shooting for and if you plan to stuff something like this...

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into something like this...

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...it's gonna be f'n rad!!

good luck, have fun and please keep us posted on your progress! :cool: