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General Forums => Air Speed Lounge => Topic started by: James Buchan on August 06, 2004, 06:57:19 PM
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Just got banned over at VWdov for asking a simple question!
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Well don't leave us hanging WHAT DID YOU ASK?
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Not bringing it here, just funny how they work. They deleted the thread as well.
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NOW thats just plain right teasing just one hint you started it
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YOU have to give us a hint or we will make something up . Was it the odds on the race between you and brian ? :lol:
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Sorry James.
thats 5 banned in under 2 days and 0 reasons.
:rockon:
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there are a lot more heated discusions over there than here for sure, must have been pretty bad......
funny how they work in that their site is actualy moderated?
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Its moderated by the owner and his lil'buddies. So, no not really :P
And there was no heated discussion, there was no post made on vwdov. except James'. The other 4 of us were banned from DOV by posting on Vortex and for having a MSN discussion.
ahhhhh youngin politics :wacko:
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Come on James, as it sounds, we're all a little more mature over here,
indulge us with your deviance.
Mike
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James, are you stirring the shit with he waterpumpers??
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Did you touch the \"GOLDMEMBER\"? I told you that you would go blind doing that!!! :lol: :lol: :lol:
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matt - they're water dumpers.
pointblank - i heard james got a rise out of his little \"bronze member\" after touching the goldmember. or was it golden shower? i cant remember. :P
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Welcome to the club! I've been banned 3 times, under 3 different user names, and also had 3 IP's banned from that moron's site. trust me when I tell you it is no great loss. He's a stupid little kid, and his day WILL come.
I was a waterpumper for the past 12 years, but I'm quickly learning that aircooled VW guys are a better crowd than they will ever be. I'll not likely own another VW of any kind, but I'll still hang around other owners.
Al
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Apparently Jason made a post on dov about why i was banned. i can't read it, dont care to cause i know its all lies. Its nice to know that he really is THAT immature :D haha
I was banned for this (coming from a mutual aquaintence, 5 min after he talked to jason)
me saying bjorn didn't get enough credit with the site
my response to his stupid Amsoil thread (i'm sorry but oil DOES NOT improve cold starts)
and me being too much like Al Canuck, which apparently threatens him and DOV.
:rolleyes:
Now theres a nice little thread on dov, apparently cause i can't view it, that trashes me by Jason. heh. I love the maturity of DOV and the glorious ethics.
woot.
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URL?
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www.vwdov.ca
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my response to his stupid Amsoil thread (i'm sorry but oil DOES NOT improve cold starts)
Ummm it does......
off topic to this post but you'll find that for example a 10w30 synthetic will pour roughly the same in 0 degrees or 20 degrees celcius. Perhaps 20w50 would be a better example.
Get a bottle of your favourite mineral/dino oil in 20w50. Now get a bottle of any real synthetic like Amsoil (PAO based) or Royal purple, Motul (ester based), Elf...etc etc. You'll quickly understand that synthetic pours almost the same in cold or hot ambient temperatures. So if you used 20w50 mineral oil in your engine on a cold winter day the oil will be thicker compared to a 20w50 synthetic. Get two bottles and pour them at the same time. I guarantee the synthetic bottle will empty faster in 0 degrees.
Synthetic DOES improve cold starts because the oil will not get thicker due to cold extreme weather. That is the whole purpose of multigrade oils in north american climates. Oil pours easier in the cold but retain a the viscosity of a thicker oil like 30, 40 or 50 weight when at operating temperatures. Synthetic multigrades just does a better job than multigrade mineral oil in the cold.
If you worked in a cold automotive shop like I do (winter months) you'll see this with your own eyes. It will take alot more effort to pump 20w50 out of a drum of oil in the winter than in the spring/summer/fall months.
If your talking about fuel enrichment on cold starts this is a totally different topic but if your talking about oil thickness, synthetic will help cranking speeds of a cold engine in the cold compared to dino oil.
These are facts that you can experiment yourself. Many mechanics that have full knoweledge of sythetic oils will also agree.
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I'm glad i haven't heard about the VWDOV sooner!! I guess ignorance is bliss :blink:
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Thats why you never break a motor on sythetic oil!!
(my mom told me that)
Cheers!!
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last i checked it was start up was mechanical. the oil doesn't flow until something mechanical takes it through the engine. Oil viscosity and viscosity index relate to how the oil flows and the fluidity at different temperatures. I never said it didn't flow better at lower temps, nor did i say it didn't maintain a film. Oil doesn't flow by itself ;) You can start an engine without oil, however cannot run an engine for periods of time without oil.
Oh and I'm a professional mechanic, both automotive and commercial/heavy duty. :)
anyways i'm not having this conversation again. the point was, it was my trained technical advice that got me banned by a kid that knows very little about mechanics of a vehicle.
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last i checked it was start up was mechanical. the oil doesn't flow until something mechanical takes it through the engine. Oil viscosity and viscosity index relate to how the oil flows and the fluidity at different temperatures. I never said it didn't flow better at lower temps, nor did i say it didn't maintain a film. Oil doesn't flow by itself ;) You can start an engine without oil, however cannot run an engine for periods of time without oil.
Oh and I'm a professional mechanic, both automotive and commercial/heavy duty. :)
anyways i'm not having this conversation again. the point was, it was my trained technical advice that got me banned by a kid that knows very little about mechanics of a vehicle.
;) Good on ya, That is what this forum is all about debates... You wont get banned here for speaking your mind about intelligent discussions.... Hell I have not been banned yet nor has James so Its all good...
ps I am glad you defended yourself and backed your credentials behind it.
I learned something new today!!! :huh:
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this forum has no where near the traffic that VWDOV has, plus the air cooled community is a lot smaller than the watercooled here in vancouver. hence the tougher moderating. one thing \"waterpumpers\" don't realy do is flame the other \"aircooled\" crowd. in fact in a lot of their posts for get together, a lot of members actualy put shout outs to get aircoolers to come out. don;t get me wrong, this forum is great, but it mostly consists of a few people bantering back and forth.
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this forum has no where near the traffic that VWDOV has, plus the air cooled community is a lot smaller than the watercooled here in vancouver. hence the tougher moderating. one thing "waterpumpers" don't realy do is flame the other "aircooled" crowd. in fact in a lot of their posts for get together, a lot of members actualy put shout outs to get aircoolers to come out. don;t get me wrong, this forum is great, but it mostly consists of a few people bantering back and forth.
This forum does not ban people either. The only people slammin the water is the people Banned. They kinda have a rigt to
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I'm sorry but i really can't make sense of hellgti's post. :unsure:
theres a long list of people banned for no reason on dov. the thread that jason made about me, well its half true and the events happened AFTER i was banned. so i dont really know how that site is better. vortex is still key for tech info, same as personal sites. dov as a whole is a big tangs corner. :wacko:
anyways.... hi i'm Jaime, i drive a modded 84 rabbit gti. yup water cooled. :rockon:
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I suspect it's only a matter of time until Nate18T sticks his ugly mug into this thread! He's always been Jason's little bitch, and loves to sign up to other forums, just to flame people.
Anyway, at least I KNOW why I was banned from the DOV. As for the HUGE list of other people, I can only speculate.
Hellgti's post???? :blink: :wacko: :huh:
Al
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I'm sorry but i really can't make sense of hellgti's post. :unsure:
theres a long list of people banned for no reason on dov. the thread that jason made about me, well its half true and the events happened AFTER i was banned. so i dont really know how that site is better. vortex is still key for tech info, same as personal sites. dov as a whole is a big tangs corner. :wacko:
anyways.... hi i'm Jaime, i drive a modded 84 rabbit gti. yup water cooled. :rockon:
Welcome Jaime...
Always welcome here and everyone here owns some sort of Water... Going to the GCVW??
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Welcome. Like Shane says we have a own some water but Air brings us all together!
Too bad the other forum decided to ban you. Lets try and keep the name calling out of this forum though.
Unless it someone like that chopper stealing bastard Shane!
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Haha thanks, i'm keeping it clean :)
I made this, as a invite to some new forums we are making. bcvwdrivers start (http://ca.groups.yahoo.com/group/bcvwdrivers/) :wub: Its a basis to get the forums www.bcwvdrivers.ca started and once they are up and running, if no one wants to continue using them, its easy to delete :D
Okay, its really cause i can't even post in the canada forum of vwvortex anymore cause Jason is a mod and deletes ALL my posts. nice eh. uhg. THATS annoying heh.
Feel free to join and have fun :)
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oh and GCVW :rockon: I hope to be there, if I'm not I'm releasing tension out 4x4n :D
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everyone here owns some sort of Water...
Not everyone.... [_[
some of us only own aircooled cars and guess what... we actually DRIVE them!
:P
ThrasheR
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you guys drive your cars?!?!?!!
wtf!
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I CAN READ THE HEADLINES NOW!
DANNYBOY LYNCHED BY ANGRY MOB[/b][/size]
\"I dont understand, nobody ever told me you could drive these things\"
As he was transported to the hospital to have his underwear removed from his ass.
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Do you think he'd even make it to the hospital????? I mean with all that chaffing and all, who'd want to bring him?!!!!!!
HAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Mike :rockon: :rockon: :rockon:
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I work in a parts store that mean I know EVERYTHING!!!
Cheers!!
(that statement is meant to be a joke)
(just in case)
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He ... loves to sign up to other forums, just to flame people.
sorry, with all due respect, i call bullshit. please note the date:
Al Canuck
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QUOTE (Al Canuck@ May 11 2004, 07:57 PM)
Brian, why the hell do you bother? Do you think I won't see your posts? Really sad. It's evident that you're extrememly jealous of me, and my business....con't
no offence, dude, as i'm not really into starting a flame war here, but perhaps you ought not to throw stones if you live in a glass house.
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Damn! Moni hits hard! :lol:
Don't mess with the bull, son. You'll get the horns. :rockon:
(another Breakfast Club quote B) )
***EDIT*** Sorry, the first Breakfast Club quote was on a different forum :huh: Sometimes I get confused :wacko: )
ThrasheR
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this forum has no where near the traffic that VWDOV has, plus the air cooled community is a lot smaller than the watercooled here in vancouver. hence the tougher moderating. one thing "waterpumpers" don't realy do is flame the other "aircooled" crowd. in fact in a lot of their posts for get together, a lot of members actualy put shout outs to get aircoolers to come out. don;t get me wrong, this forum is great, but it mostly consists of a few people bantering back and forth.
let me break my post down for you....pay attention now,
traffic = moderation.
vwdov is large, and the community that uses it is large and for the most part, annonymous, hence, less patience for BS.
airspeedparts.com (as an example) is relativly small, we all know and have met most of each other on here, hence, larger tolerance.
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Now theres a nice little thread on dov, apparently cause i can't view it, that trashes me by Jason. heh. I love the maturity of DOV and the glorious ethics.
woot.
Anyone have a direct link to this thread? I wanna see it!!!! I had a look around DOV but couldn't find anything.
ThrasheR
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Now theres a nice little thread on dov, apparently cause i can't view it, that trashes me by Jason. heh. I love the maturity of DOV and the glorious ethics.
woot.
Anyone have a direct link to this thread? I wanna see it!!!! I had a look around DOV but couldn't find anything.
ThrasheR
i second that...
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Man you guys, Everytime I post it goes postal!!! I was simply laughing about what happened, and I don't give a rats ass (you can quote me on that) I was having some fun and you guys get all serious!
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Oh yeah, I'm always TOTALLY serious. Seriously. C'mon, give up the link!
ThrasheR
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Here is a copy of the original post by Jason. I didn't get to see the rest of it before it was deleted.
Al
Jaime (Buster_blu, who used to be on this board but recently lost her
privileges) seems to think so.
I don't know what it is, but are all Asians instantly assumed to be
\"satellite kids\" who are spoiled beyond belief by their rich parents
overseas?
Just to give you guys a taste of what I've been dealing with over the past
few days. For the rumor spreaders and sh*t disturbers who want to stir the
pot and say that the DOV staff is banning people at random, this should shut
you up. Here's a prime example of the sh*t that is slung right at us, and in
this case, directly at me. I take this personally as it is definitely a
quasi-racist comment made against me, and henceforth do not welcome these
kinds of derogatory-minded people on my site at all:
[See your Vortex post]
This was a comment that Jaime posted about me on the VWVortex Canada forum,
before the thread was holed for obvious reasons. Jaime seems to think she
was banned for \"no reason\", but she knows all well why she was banned. This
example of her postings is directly along the lines of what she posted
previously on VWVortex that got her banned from this site. She attempted to
spread false rumors, defame my character, and now she's pushing racist
stereotypes against me. None of the info in the above post is factual, and
neither was the rest she posted in the past. So, was she banned without a
reason? No.
And for the record (especially to Jaime): First of all, I am the sole owner
of this site. Secondly, I am Chinese, but I was born and raised in Canada. I
am proudly Canadian. My parents raised me throughout my 21 years and I never
was at one point a \"satellite kid\". I didn't grow up with a silver spoon
either, so you can take your racist assumptions/stereotypes and shove them
where they belong. I have been employed at various jobs since I was 14, and
now I own a couple businesses and attend SFU to complete my Business degree.
My parents don't finance my hobbies. They feed me, and put a roof over me
and I am appreciative of all that they have given me. Jaime, open your eyes
a little wider: Not all Asians are satellite kids and/or spoiled by their
parents. I guess it's not true that Asians are the ones with slits for eyes
eh?
As for your comment on Akira, all I have to say is this: I don't just hear
about your underground MSN \"bash Deception\" chats. I am there, whether you
know it or not.
I've said it once and I'll say it again: I don't know what Jaime has against
me. Perhaps it's jealousy, or arrogance. Or plain hormonal imbalances.
Whatever it is, I do not want to get involved, and I choose to take the
mature route by remaining passive in these events and not instigating the
situation further by getting into nonsensical arguments.
That is all. If you haters still can't see why Jaime (and her brainwashed
followers/minions) were banned, then I guess I can't do very much for you
guys and gals.
Anyone else who wants to publicly defame me or mouth off my staff for doing
what they do (maintaining and administrating my web-site and forums) will be
banned in due course.
For the rest of you who use the forums maturely and properly, thank you and
especially to those who stood up for me during the whole \"fiasco\" on
VWVortex.
Enjoy the forums as usual!
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oh james...what did you start now!!
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He ... loves to sign up to other forums, just to flame people.
sorry, with all due respect, i call bullshit. please note the date:
Al Canuck
Member
Group: Members
Posts: 23
Member No.: 361
Joined: 11-May 04
QUOTE (Al Canuck@ May 11 2004, 07:57 PM)
Brian, why the hell do you bother? Do you think I won't see your posts? Really sad. It's evident that you're extrememly jealous of me, and my business....con't
no offence, dude, as i'm not really into starting a flame war here, but perhaps you ought not to throw stones if you live in a glass house.
Touche! Difference is though, I was lurking here for quite a while before I signed up to post that. You guys can thank Kirin for dragging me over here. Thank him or hurt him, I'm not sure! ;)
The thing with Nate is, that he joins forums JUST to get involved with discussions where Jason or the DOV are involved. He's done it LOTS in the past, and will probably do it again. I actually care about the cars here, but he only wants to be confrontational. Big difference. Also, Brian and I had a little tiff at a completely different site before I posted that. It just got dragged over here. We've also buried the hatchet since then.
Al
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Good lord man, let it go. I mean it's just VWdov..... not a life and death situation here.
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Good lord man, let it go. I mean it's just VWdov..... not a life and death situation here.
Yeah, but it's 10:30 on a Sunday night and this is entertaining! :rockon:
ThrasheR
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Good lord man, let it go. I mean it's just VWdov..... not a life and death situation here.
Me? I agree. I was only responding to the accusation that I only join forums to start flame wars, and I also answered the request for those who wanted to see the original post by Jason. It just happened to land in my inbox this afternoon, so it was convenient.
Al
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Where's the \"wish I never made that post - delete\" button?
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Where's the "wish I never made that post - delete" button?
:lol: :lol: damn this is good. how'd you do it all the time???
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I\"m not all serious and I dont care :( :angry:
I just need a hug....dammit :unsure:
Its very unlikely I\"ll be attending GCVW, I might stop by, but I'm really not sure it'd be worth it this year with stuff like that going on. 'sniff' 'sniff'
WOOT mud! maybe... here's hoping we make the trail this time haha.
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go to the races then, water pumpers are scared to race us there :)
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Screw that noise! Don't let those pre pubescent little turds scare you away. Bring your car out to the show! Don't back down!
ThrasheR
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I've got a better idea for you, Jaime. Bring your truck to the GCVWS, and run over Jason's car! Oh oh, even better idea, if you do come out, you MUST bring Milo with you. Get someone to find Jason, and tell them that a little girl with a puppy wants to talk with him!
On a related note, when I come out this year, can I hang with the air cooled guys, rather that the water pumpers?
Al
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Jason doesn't come to events ... you know that :P
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Jason doesn't come to events ... you know that :P
Sadly, very true. I've never actually met him before, but I do look forward to it one day.
Al
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For the rest of you who use the forums maturely and properly ....
Are we talking about VWDOV here?
Sorry but i found that amusing.
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On a related note, when I come out this year, can I hang with the air cooled guys, rather that the water pumpers?
Al
Have you been accepted yet.... Gone through all the hazing? Bought us all a case our Fav beer?? UNtil then you must hang with water
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. They feed me, and put a roof over me
and I am appreciative of all that they have given me.
Dood is 21 and lives at Home Free!!! I Call spoiled !!! Goes to school and owns 2 businesses..wow...I say Dad funded some of that!!!