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Title: Fuel Line/Fliters
Post by: Chris W on November 18, 2008, 05:37:20 PM
I am redoing my fuel lines and thinking about cleaning it up and trying to improve what was there. I have 2 of the plastic filters both after the T too the carburetors is the necessary or should I just run one before the fuel pump? Any recommendations on filters?

Thanks
Title: Re: Fuel Line/Fliters
Post by: Bruce on November 18, 2008, 06:30:17 PM
I don't use any filters.
Title: Re: Fuel Line/Fliters
Post by: Chris W on November 18, 2008, 06:38:44 PM
Just the tank screen?
Title: Re: Fuel Line/Fliters
Post by: Bruce on November 18, 2008, 06:58:05 PM
For about 15-18 years, no. 
Since my car is a 75, (FI = external filter) it did not come with a screen at the tank, so I never used one.  A few years ago when I had the tank out for some reason I can't remember, I installed one just because I had it.
Title: Re: Fuel Line/Fliters
Post by: James Buchan on November 19, 2008, 09:20:30 AM
I agree - those plastic fuel filters are a leak waiting to happen imo - if you are wanting a filter go with one that you can open up and inspect and is reusable. This is the one I have used in the past with good results...

http://www.aeromotiveinc.com/products.php?prod=261
Title: Re: Fuel Line/Fliters
Post by: Chris W on November 19, 2008, 11:58:06 AM
That's nice, but I am running stock line with no fittings.
Title: Re: Fuel Line/Fliters
Post by: Glenn on November 19, 2008, 02:29:54 PM
I use a $7 filter that has a metal can and filters to 8 microns.

it's application is for a Toro lawn tractor.... don't laugh, it works just fine.
Title: Re: Fuel Line/Fliters
Post by: Bruce on November 19, 2008, 02:44:06 PM
If anyone is using those 99
Title: Re: Fuel Line/Fliters
Post by: Chris W on November 19, 2008, 03:33:55 PM
I agree it does not make sense to use a ten cent filter on a $$$$ engine. I will check out the tractor store see what they have.
Title: Re: Fuel Line/Fliters
Post by: neil68 on November 20, 2008, 06:44:11 PM
At our local IHRA track, we cannot pass the tech inspection with a plastic fuel filter...
Title: Re: Fuel Line/Fliters
Post by: Chris W on November 21, 2008, 11:33:32 AM
I am going to redo all the lines and then see how the tank looks and think about a filter up front.

Here is the redo of the lines that were just flopped in the engine compartment.

Now as far as size line goes. I was going to do 5mm from the pump to the T and then 7mm to the carbs. Any difference in running 7mm on everything? The 5mm is a stretch on the brass T I have.

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Title: Re: Fuel Line/Fliters
Post by: Bruce on November 21, 2008, 12:21:39 PM
Better would be to go to your local auto parts store and get some brake hard lines.  Also get a brass Tee.  Then use that instead of all that loose rubber hose.  Use short pieces of rubber hose only to couple the ends to the pump and carb.
Title: Re: Fuel Line/Fliters
Post by: Chris W on November 21, 2008, 12:36:28 PM
I thought about that, but my thought was that you will have more joints/more places to leak from......

I have a brass barbed T already, are you saying use a threaded one or barbed one?
Title: Re: Fuel Line/Fliters
Post by: Bruce on November 21, 2008, 01:32:56 PM
Metal lines are much more robust than rubber hose.  Use brake lines and the flared ends seal perfectly.  The only hose pieces you would have is one short one at each carb connecting the hard line to the carb inlet, and 2 hose pieces at the pump.  Use clamps to secure the hard line to the forward part of the shroud where you don't see it.
Title: Re: Fuel Line/Fliters
Post by: Glenn on November 22, 2008, 02:56:56 PM
I am going to redo all the lines and then see how the tank looks and think about a filter up front.

Here is the redo of the lines that were just flopped in the engine compartment.

Now as far as size line goes. I was going to do 5mm from the pump to the T and then 7mm to the carbs. Any difference in running 7mm on everything? The 5mm is a stretch on the brass T I have.


Chris,

I used .250"OD/.196"ID stainless tubing and it works just fine.

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Title: Re: Fuel Line/Fliters
Post by: egspot on November 22, 2008, 03:13:10 PM
That looks like very COOL work. Thanks for the pictures.
Title: Re: Fuel Line/Fliters
Post by: Chris W on November 23, 2008, 08:01:50 PM
I picked up some 3/16 brake line and mocked it up. I need to go 1/4 like what Glenn used so the 7mm fuel line fits on it better, but this is the basic idea I have so far.

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Thanks for the help!
Title: Re: Fuel Line/Fliters
Post by: Bruce on November 23, 2008, 09:02:51 PM
That's the right idea.
Title: Re: Fuel Line/Fliters
Post by: Glenn on November 24, 2008, 03:05:10 PM
You'll want to keep the hardline close to the shroud. Otherwise it will make getting the engine in harder and access to the mounting bolts difficult
Title: Re: Fuel Line/Fliters
Post by: Chris W on November 24, 2008, 08:01:12 PM
I just need to make up one more line.

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Title: Re: Fuel Line/Fliters
Post by: 70's Looker on November 24, 2008, 09:17:43 PM
does the hardline go through the hose at the bend by the oil cooler tin? or just the hose?
Title: Re: Fuel Line/Fliters
Post by: Chris W on November 24, 2008, 09:45:44 PM
It's just a spot of soft hose over the hardline to keep it from rattling.
Title: Re: Fuel Line/Fliters
Post by: 70's Looker on November 24, 2008, 09:50:07 PM
nice!
Title: Re: Fuel Line/Fliters
Post by: silas on November 27, 2008, 11:01:19 PM
I just need to make up one more line.

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f@#kin eh, chris!!! looks souper sano!!!! 8)
Title: Re: Fuel Line/Fliters
Post by: Hotrodvw1 on January 10, 2009, 01:00:30 PM
Sanitary Chris!  Here's what I did for mine:

3/8" ss tube and tube nuts/sleeves, all AN/JIC fittings. 
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