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Title: OIL DEEP SUMP installation?
Post by: egspot on September 21, 2008, 11:12:00 AM

I have this deep sump and was looking into how the extension tube is intalled?

Can it be installed with the engine on the car?

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Title: Re: OIL DEEP SUMP installation?
Post by: Bruce on September 21, 2008, 12:21:57 PM
Yes.
Glue it on with RTV, then put a hose clamp onto it.
Title: Re: OIL DEEP SUMP installation?
Post by: jim martin on September 21, 2008, 08:10:00 PM
couple of points .
depending on the lower sump plate the drain bolt may hit dead centre and block your oil extension,you will need to trim the drain bolt or measure and move the oil extension up higher .
bevel opens to back of car with the tip of the extension min 1/2 " from the bottom 3/4" max.
best way to put the extension on is of course to weld it.
if its in the car make sure the extension is a tight /correct fit onto the original oil pickup,if so cut a 1/2" slot on the end going up onto the original oil pickup tube .this way when you clamp it with a hose clamp it will allow it to compress and grip .i would not use rtv there i would recomend depending on the fit if using the clamp on meathod ,loctite green or jb weld ,you will only need a thin film around the original pickup tube.
remember put the loctite or jb weld around  the original oil  pickup that way when you slide the extension up it will push out any extra.
let it dry 24 hrs,then accelerate
Title: Re: OIL DEEP SUMP installation?
Post by: silas on September 22, 2008, 09:37:53 PM
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that looks like a slightly tattered old school race trim sump...did you buy that one off thesamba.com?
Title: Re: OIL DEEP SUMP installation?
Post by: egspot on September 22, 2008, 09:41:37 PM
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that looks like a slightly tattered old school race trim sump...did you buy that one off thesamba.com?

That is a Samba picture that is somewhat like the one i have. I used it because my main concern is the addition to the pipe.
Title: Re: OIL DEEP SUMP installation?
Post by: silas on September 22, 2008, 09:54:58 PM
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that looks like a slightly tattered old school race trim sump...did you buy that one off thesamba.com?

That is a Samba picture that is somewhat like the one i have. I used it because my main concern is the addition to the pipe.

gotcha.
Title: Re: OIL DEEP SUMP installation?
Post by: egspot on September 27, 2008, 03:11:45 PM
Actual pictures

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Title: Re: OIL DEEP SUMP installation?
Post by: 70's Looker on September 27, 2008, 04:38:56 PM
ooooo a lang sump, i always like seeing lang prods, anyone know who they sold through in canada??
Title: Re: OIL DEEP SUMP installation?
Post by: Bruce on September 28, 2008, 11:11:43 AM
Gary Lang!
Title: Re: OIL DEEP SUMP installation?
Post by: 70's Looker on September 28, 2008, 11:59:44 AM
oh really eh thats cool to know, i had a couple of the linkages in my collection only cause they were from canada, same as a deano or whatever else could never really find any solid info on them, but very good to know now  :D
Title: Re: OIL DEEP SUMP installation?
Post by: Trevor P on September 29, 2008, 10:04:17 PM
I just scored one of those Lang sumps at the OCTO show this year (I just had to bring it back to Canada) ;D.
Nice vintage speed piece for sure
Title: Re: OIL DEEP SUMP installation?
Post by: Bruce on September 29, 2008, 11:00:56 PM
The first time I met Gary in the 80s, he told about a few of the details on the sump.  Notice how the top surface has a small step at each corner?  This is to clear the factory ears that the lower cylinder sled tins screw to.  He gave it only a small amount of clearance so that if the sump hit anything, it would only deflect a small amount, then the case would take the load.  He also designed the sump to be as close as possible to the case to maximize ground clearance.
I ran a Lang sump for many years, and even though I hit it a few times, it never gave me troubles.  I can't say the same for the boat anchor Berg sump on my engine now.
Title: Re: OIL DEEP SUMP installation?
Post by: Bruce on September 29, 2008, 11:16:56 PM
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Title: Re: OIL DEEP SUMP installation?
Post by: Geoff on October 01, 2008, 08:05:44 PM
I have a fair amount of Lang stuff in my collection including a set of NOS 36hp valve covers, decal, and a 13-1600 sump.  Very cool stuff with local history!
Title: Re: OIL DEEP SUMP installation?
Post by: egspot on October 01, 2008, 08:54:18 PM
I have a fair amount of Lang stuff in my collection including a set of NOS 36hp valve covers, decal, and a 13-1600 sump.  Very cool stuff with local history!

OK so it may be  a good sump, How do I get a tube that I can use and any hints about prepping it and intalling it?
Title: Re: OIL DEEP SUMP installation?
Post by: 70's Looker on October 01, 2008, 09:04:15 PM
geoff man, you got any quick pics of the valve covers?? i bet those are a trip!
Title: Re: OIL DEEP SUMP installation?
Post by: silas on October 01, 2008, 10:14:24 PM
way cool. lang trumps race trim any day imho!!!
Title: Re: OIL DEEP SUMP installation?
Post by: jim martin on October 02, 2008, 06:22:47 AM


OK so it may be  a good sump, How do I get a tube that I can use and any hints about prepping it and intalling it?

i think this has been covered .

is there a problem with the tube fitting you will need to measure th O.D of the pickup on your motor now .then the I/D of the new pickup