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Title: Real Street Vw Shootout 2004
Post by: James Buchan on March 01, 2004, 07:50:33 PM: Like the title says, let's give Geoff some feedback to make this event happen!

Dates:
Rules/Classes:
Etc....

Personally I like late May, better chance of good weather/my car being completed :)

Rules:
Stroker/non classes?
Specific length drive so everyone is on the same playing field (no trailer queen drag cars)
Full Street trim or gutted? Weigh in prior?
Grudge matches - I got some smack to back up!
Title: Real Street Vw Shootout 2004
Post by: nivag on March 01, 2004, 08:47:10 PM: Displacement classes:
up to 1600
1776-1914
2007-2332
Nitrous/ turbos

Have a weight restriction (min weight per class)
Have to be insured(even if permit)
Have to run a muffler
Meet at airspeed and drive out.
If you run it on a Sat race, it would be more relaxed and could bbq and stuff.

3 runs, best recorded time

my $.02
Title: Real Street Vw Shootout 2004
Post by: kirin on March 01, 2004, 08:49:58 PM: no stinger? :huh:
K I'm running in the up to 1600cc class full trim plus plus interior.
-Kirin
Title: Real Street Vw Shootout 2004
Post by: Scratchy on March 01, 2004, 10:57:21 PM: Quote
Displacement classes:
up to 1600
1776-1914
2007-2332
Nitrous/ turbos

I guess that excludes my 1995 motor..... 82x88 super thick heavy wall Berg specials ;)
Maybe I can run in my own class!
Title: Real Street Vw Shootout 2004
Post by: Chris on March 01, 2004, 11:26:52 PM: Quote
Quote
Displacement classes:
up to 1600
1776-1914
2007-2332
Nitrous/ turbos

I guess that excludes my 1995 motor..... 82x88 super thick heavy wall Berg specials ;)
Maybe I can run in my own class!
I'm building an 88x82 (VW journal) for my bus... :rockon:

Why no 1641's or 1679's and other combos out there between 1600 and 1776(should be 1775)? The gaps need to be filled, maybe somethin' like...

up to 1600cc's or 1585
1586-1774
1775-1915
1916-2332/2387/2443/2498/Unlimited
A/A

2027 (94x73.025 Chevy journal) for a drag motor
2017 (90.5x78.4 Porsche journal) for a daily driver in a Beetle
Got some NOS 90B's too...someone wanna' donate a 76mm crank for 1934cc's? :blink:
Title: Real Street Vw Shootout 2004
Post by: Shane on March 02, 2004, 08:00:27 AM: Yes we will fill in the classes...
Everyone should come out and race
;)
Title: Real Street Vw Shootout 2004
Post by: James Buchan on March 02, 2004, 09:31:44 AM: How about just 1.Under 2L and 2. Over 2L
Title: Real Street Vw Shootout 2004
Post by: red snapper on March 02, 2004, 11:00:43 AM: Theres no trophies for \"no shows\" James. Ya better get ready because I am.
Title: Real Street Vw Shootout 2004
Post by: silas on March 02, 2004, 11:30:38 AM: keep it simple.

3 classes. non stroked, stroked, and turbo/nitrous.

no weight restrictions.

car must be insured and driven to the track from airspeed.
Title: Real Street Vw Shootout 2004
Post by: Hoosier Daddy on March 02, 2004, 11:32:33 AM: Simple sounds good to me to...I like em strooookkkked :D
Title: Real Street Vw Shootout 2004
Post by: Billyisgr8 on March 02, 2004, 12:29:39 PM: Yes the later the better. June even, then maybe I have a chance at getting my car done. I have not been saying much lately because of all the stuff i have to look after in regards to our move.

Kevin
Title: Real Street Vw Shootout 2004
Post by: Geoff on March 02, 2004, 03:00:09 PM: This event will be a Spring kick off with maybe another one held late in Summer, for the die hards we will be driving out every street legal night.

As for classes, the simpler the better as we will have to run in the reg import class and keep track of everyones passes. Everyone has good input so far, lets hear some more before we make a date.
Title: Real Street Vw Shootout 2004
Post by: Stephan Schmidt on March 02, 2004, 05:41:06 PM: This is a main fact:

THE CARS MUST BE DRIVEN FROM AIRSPEED TO THE TRACK. YOU SHOULD NOT BEABLE TO TRAILER YOUR CAR FROM AIRSPEED TO MISSION!!!
Title: Real Street Vw Shootout 2004
Post by: steveo_32 on March 02, 2004, 07:03:29 PM: 2180cc 371 blower? im I allowed to play?

(hoping that this combo will not blow up)i might make it there and almost back.
Thats always the hard part.
:blink:
Title: Real Street Vw Shootout 2004
Post by: Geoff on March 02, 2004, 07:26:33 PM: Stephan, That is the point to this event, maybe you (and others havent read the earlier posts)
This event is the \"Real street VW shoot out\" The way it works is everyone meets at Airspeed, signs up...we drive to Chevron at 200th where everyone fills up on the same gas (you can run anything they have on tap) then we all drive to the track, race and drive home. If you want to trailor your car home that is fine, the main part is driving to Mission and running the #'s.

More info coming soon!!!
Title: Real Street Vw Shootout 2004
Post by: Stephan Schmidt on March 02, 2004, 10:38:23 PM: yup
I read it

just making it clear!

stephan
Title: Real Street Vw Shootout 2004
Post by: Shane on March 03, 2004, 07:13:34 AM: So Geoff, what are you saying exactly?? I can not trailer my Beast??
I must drive it?
Does chevron carry aviation fuel?
So what are the rules exactly?? :P
Title: Real Street Vw Shootout 2004
Post by: Geoff on March 03, 2004, 07:51:29 AM: It's all about \"Street cars\" no mix fuel no race gas all pump all driven.
Your luck shane all u gotta do is turn the boost down...(that car runs fine on pump gas anyway)
Title: Real Street Vw Shootout 2004
Post by: red snapper on March 03, 2004, 12:14:23 PM: Personally, I would like to see this event happen as soon as possible. The reason being is that my liqour cabinet is almost on empty. Seriously, Im really looking forward to this. I just cant wait anymore!! :D Lets set a date.
Title: Real Street Vw Shootout 2004
Post by: Hoosier Daddy on March 03, 2004, 12:39:04 PM: I say mid-April is the time to have it. I with Brian on this one, can't wait!
Title: Real Street Vw Shootout 2004
Post by: red snapper on March 03, 2004, 01:17:31 PM: Thanks Shane!! The only problem I see with that is the DGVLK will be without one less member :P . Theres has to be more than just the two of us.
Title: Real Street Vw Shootout 2004
Post by: James Buchan on March 03, 2004, 04:07:01 PM: Hey come on now - I thought I had until MAY!!!!!
Title: Real Street Vw Shootout 2004
Post by: Matt on March 03, 2004, 09:32:10 PM: Pitter patter James, Pitter Patter.....
Title: Real Street Vw Shootout 2004
Post by: James Buchan on March 03, 2004, 10:07:48 PM: I know, I know!
Title: Real Street Vw Shootout 2004
Post by: Billyisgr8 on March 04, 2004, 03:33:33 PM: James this will be talked about for years if I am finished before you, since I havn't even started yet and won't until after April.

Kevin
Title: Real Street Vw Shootout 2004
Post by: Cornpanzer on March 06, 2004, 07:48:39 PM: SOunds like a cool idea guys! Hope you get tons of support. Maybe there should be a minimum weight to keep the gutwagens out!!! ;)
Title: Real Street Vw Shootout 2004
Post by: silas on March 07, 2004, 10:35:39 AM: i, personally, dont like the weight restrictions rule. it doesnt seem like a \"real street vw\" rule. icbc doesnt have weight restrictions and the cops cant give you a ticket for having a light car. i know that full interior/trim cars are at a disadvantage here, but it just means that they'll have to make it up somewhere else. and what about the buggies or rails that may want to partake?
Title: Real Street Vw Shootout 2004
Post by: Shane on March 07, 2004, 05:05:36 PM: Has to be street legal..
I only know of 2 street legal rails.. and they dont have huge power..
But like you said silas aslong as they are street legal.... weight is what it is.....
;)
Title: Real Street Vw Shootout 2004
Post by: jim martin on March 09, 2004, 07:04:48 PM: classes should be----under 2 litre /over 2 litre /forced induction
pump gas and street tires ,
as far as weight goes/rules, i would say -everyone has 5 gallons of gas and 2 frt seats and rear seat set all lights operating and be insured after that anything goes.so rip out the carpets,put helium in the tires ,clean the door pockets out and go racing !!!!!!!!!
Title: Real Street Vw Shootout 2004
Post by: James Buchan on March 09, 2004, 07:17:16 PM: I don't have a rear seat - got aluminum....
Title: Real Street Vw Shootout 2004
Post by: kirin on March 09, 2004, 08:43:34 PM: Wahoo! I will be 1600cc class and I won't be a gutwagen..
-Kirin
Title: Real Street Vw Shootout 2004
Post by: jim martin on March 09, 2004, 08:54:19 PM: head over too the hoosier daddy's house ,he's got a pile of cars and parts.borrow some rear seats ,shake out the spiders ,clip them in and go racing.that way if your car breaks you also have a place too sleep.
i know coming up with rules/ideas is hard and can't please everone, but it is a STREET shoot out.
lights/seats frt & rear/pump gas/street tires have too be in there.
the idea sounds like a good overall time to be had by all,just think of all the things not being brought up under rules ?????????
Title: Real Street Vw Shootout 2004
Post by: Billyisgr8 on March 09, 2004, 11:09:49 PM: Quote
head over too the hoosier daddy's house ,he's got a pile of cars and parts.borrow some rear seats
Hey 2 of those cars are mine....!!!!!!!!

Kevin
Title: Real Street Vw Shootout 2004
Post by: silas on March 10, 2004, 12:09:52 AM: i have to disagree w/ the seat thing, jim.

it just doesnt seem to \"street\" to me. one must consider 2 seater buggies and rails. (hopefully there are a few) i know that there is usually no back seat in a buggy or rail, but then if they dont run them, will the sedan owners bitch about the fact that they need them. again it's the whole \"street vw\" clause. if it can be legally insured, it should be able to run. lights and tires and other aspects of safety, like bumpers, brakes, windshields,etc, of course are needed to insure a vehicle, but if if's gutted or full interior doesnt seem to matter.

to many little rules will screw this up. i'm still campaigning the stroked and unstroked classes, valid and current icbc insured, drive it from airspeed to the track, all fill up together rules.

just my $.02
Title: Real Street Vw Shootout 2004
Post by: Bruce on March 10, 2004, 01:25:21 AM: As well as what Silas says, you have to bring a valid current Aircare report for the engine you are running.

I'll have you all beat!!!
Title: Real Street Vw Shootout 2004
Post by: Geoff on March 10, 2004, 09:08:57 AM: Just so everyone knows the deal, this is just a fun event and if there are too many rules it will just eliminate more people. I dont run a back seat either but i drive my oval thru the summer every day! If everyone wants us to run a back seat i have no problem with that....I'll strap it to the roofrack.
The dates for this will most likely fall on a Friday night as ther isn't much in the way of reg sat sunday openings. I'll look into whats available.

The only rules are going to be.... Pump gas (no additives), valid insurance working lights front and rear (we are driving on the street) after that you can do what you like.
I'm bringing my car just as it is, the way it's driven on the street and that includes slicks.
My saying
\"If it's got plates and u drive it, it's a street car ...until you get cought\"

Now, get back to working on those cars.... looks like Mid May could be the date May 21 or 28th Friday night:o
Bellow is Missions event dates
april
2--- MOPAC Performance-fri-night street legal
3&4--- road course (sports car club of b.c.)
9--- friday- test&tune
9--- MOPAC Performance-fri-night street legal
10&11--- (B 1) bracket race(Team Gold Card race)&( motocross)
16--- MOPAC Performance-fri-night street legal
17&18--- road course (sports car club of b.c.)
23--- friday- test&tune+H/S
23--- MOPAC Performance-fri-night street legal
24&25--- (B2)bracket race(Sat=ET Challenge#1,Sun=NationalDragsterChallenge)+Combo+H/R(NO TESTING)
30--- MOPAC Performance-fri-night street legal
may
1&2--- road course (sports car club of b.c.)
6--- Thursday track rental for NHRA class cars&Super pro, W/E competitors only
7/8/9--- Lordco B.C. Nationals, NHRA,Lucas Oil divisional race series
10--- (LODRS-rain date)
14--- test&tune/High School
14--- MOPAC Performance-fri-night street legal
15&16--- (B 2)Brackets(ET Challenge#2-Sat)+ CPSA,D/S,S/SH,H/R,S/G,S/ST (NO TESTING)
21--- MOPAC Performance-fri-night street legal
22&23--- road course
28--- friday-test&tune
29&30--- CMDRA-all bike drags &(motocross)
JUNE
4--- MOPAC Performance-fri-night street legal
5&6--- The Variety Club, Car Club Weekend,sat-show&shine,sat&sun-drags featuring D/S,Combo,S/G
11---- MOPAC Performance-fri-night street legal
12&13--- road course
19&20--- Motocross Nationals
25--- friday-test&tune+H/S
25--- MOPAC Performance-fri-night street legal
26&27--- PEPSI Pro Mods#1 & Pro Street shootout#1,(B 2) bracket race+ D/S
JULY
2--- MOPAC Performance-fri-night street legal
3&4--- road course
9--- friday-test&tune+(H/S?)
9--- MOPAC Performance-fri-night street legal
10&11--- (B1)Brackets(ET Challenge#3)+CPSA,D/S,H/R,S/SH&(motocross)
16--- Friday-open track rental for W/E competitors only
17&18--- Lucas Oils Canadian National Open , (B 1) bracket race,JR Dragster(Gold Crown race)Pro Street Shootout
24&25--- road course
31&Aug 1st REMAX Langley Loafers Old Time Drags
AUGUST
31&Aug1st REMAX Langley Loafers Old Time Drags
6--- Friday test&tune
6--- MOPAC Performance-fri-night street legal
7&8--- (B2)Bracket race(Sat=ET Challenge#4,Sun=ET raindate)CPSA,D/S,S/ST,S/G,H/R(NO TESTING)&(motocross)
13--- MOPAC Performance-fri-night street legal
14&15--- road course
21&22--- JR Dragster Nationals(O'Rielley JR Challenge=Sat)&PRO TRUCKER BIG RIG Weekend=Sat&Sun
27--- friday-test&tune
27--- MOPAC Performance-fri-night street legal
28&29--- PEPSI Pro Mods#2 & Streetcar Shootout#2, (B1) bracket race+D/S,Combo,S/G
september
3--- MOPAC Performance-fri-night street legal
4&5--- road course
10&11&12--- NHRA-Div 6-ET FINALS-the best ET racers from thru-out Division 6 will gather here to do battle,
,to decide who's best and who gets to represent Div 6 at the World Finals in Pamona Calif.
17--- friday-test&tune
18&19--- CMDRA- All Bike Drags & motocross
24--- friday-test&tune
24--- MOPAC Performance-fri-night street legal
25&26--- (B 2)Bracket race + CPSA,D/S,S/SH,H/R,( No testing)
october
1--- MOPAC Performance-fri-night street legal
2&3--- road course
8--- friday-test&tune+H/S trophy race
8--- MOPAC Performance-fri-night street legal
9&10--- MUFFLER TECH FALL JACKET MEET(B2)NO POINTS,+CPSA,S/G,S/SH,Combo(NO lic&test)
16&17--- road course
23&24--- moto cross
Title: Real Street Vw Shootout 2004
Post by: OUTKAST on March 10, 2004, 09:24:40 AM: I don,t have a fast car just a slow sweet bus but this sounds intresting . whatever goes down let,s make sure we get lots of pics to post after so we can see the hard work and put some faces with names . Cant wait to see some pics. Maybe a case of beer for best wheelstand

Take care Outkast
Title: Real Street Vw Shootout 2004
Post by: red snapper on March 10, 2004, 09:28:10 AM: It should be called \"run what ya brung\". Weight doesnt matter it all good fun anyways. Theres no cash or trophies so lets keep the rules to a minimum, that way its fun for all. There are bragging rights though!
Title: Real Street Vw Shootout 2004
Post by: James Buchan on March 10, 2004, 10:30:39 AM: Aircare Bruce???? What's that????? :)

Enough chit chat, lets get it on already!

Anyways, I've got wrenches to turn......
Title: Real Street Vw Shootout 2004
Post by: red snapper on March 10, 2004, 11:00:20 AM: If you dont mind my suggestion, lets make it a little more interesting. I will put up a case of beer to the person with the best reaction time. However, Im not sharing my Crown Royal!! Anybody else?
Title: Real Street Vw Shootout 2004
Post by: James Buchan on March 10, 2004, 11:15:50 AM: Crown Royal? Why are you going to be drinking my winnings?????
Title: Real Street Vw Shootout 2004
Post by: jim martin on March 10, 2004, 05:31:01 PM: pump gas only !!!!! thats it , there goes the timing.
now i understand the hardest part is the drive from airspeed to mission raceway.if you can make it too the track in your car without having your car impounded by the police you can race it!!!!!
sounds like street racing goes legal at mission for a night.
should be a fun night ,cruise there/race/cruise home
Title: Real Street Vw Shootout 2004
Post by: Matt on March 10, 2004, 06:19:24 PM: Quote

should be a fun night ,cruise there/race/cruise home
If I remember correctly, this was the whole idea behind this event. I will see you all there in my rusty, exhaustless, crappile of a commuter car... :(
Title: Real Street Vw Shootout 2004
Post by: James Buchan on March 10, 2004, 06:26:34 PM: No way Matt - you can co-pilot with me, Cindy and Jen can go in the Jetta with Rylie - that way when something breaks I have help :)
Title: Real Street Vw Shootout 2004
Post by: kirin on March 10, 2004, 06:28:39 PM: You mean somebody to push.
-Kirin
Title: Real Street Vw Shootout 2004
Post by: James Buchan on March 10, 2004, 06:35:11 PM: Ha maybe!
Title: Real Street Vw Shootout 2004
Post by: kirin on March 10, 2004, 06:38:39 PM: I think if worse comes to worse we should have pushing drags..
Don't know what would be a fair match...
-Kirin
Title: Real Street Vw Shootout 2004
Post by: James Buchan on March 10, 2004, 07:00:31 PM: You'd better hit the gym then - I doubt you'd make the 1/4 right now!
Title: Real Street Vw Shootout 2004
Post by: Matt on March 10, 2004, 07:00:43 PM: Quote
No way Matt - you can co-pilot with me,
I'm allover that like the fatkid on smarties....You best hurry up then, now I\"m really looking forward to it!!
Title: Real Street Vw Shootout 2004
Post by: James Buchan on March 10, 2004, 07:02:33 PM: If I don't kill my tranny on the first \"kick-brian's-ass\" pass I'll even let you have a go.
Title: Real Street Vw Shootout 2004
Post by: red snapper on March 11, 2004, 12:04:12 PM: Quote

Quote

should be a fun night ,cruise there/race/cruise home
If I remember correctly, this was the whole idea behind this event. I will see you all there in my rusty, exhaustless, crappile of a commuter car... :(
Shit Matt, When you were talking about a \"exhaustless crap pile of a commuter car\" I thought you were talking about James car. Oh, and James, I do hope your tranny holds up because I dont want to hear any excuses. ;)
Title: Real Street Vw Shootout 2004
Post by: kirin on March 11, 2004, 12:10:29 PM: To make it even James has to run barefoot.
-Kirin
Title: Real Street Vw Shootout 2004
Post by: Bruce on March 12, 2004, 01:45:58 AM: Quote
Aircare Bruce???? What's that????? :)

That's what people with running cars have to get.
Title: Real Street Vw Shootout 2004
Post by: James Buchan on March 12, 2004, 08:26:33 AM: :) man everyone has a comeback for me - that's it I will no longer be mr smacktalk!
Title: Real Street Vw Shootout 2004
Post by: Pipes on March 12, 2004, 02:15:50 PM: Quote
I think if worse comes to worse we should have pushing drags..
Don't know what would be a fair match...
-Kirin
Didn't you do that once already against Shan?? At Golden Ears! :lol: