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General Forums => Classifieds => Topic started by: 58binz on October 11, 2005, 02:50:52 PM
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need to sell restored 23 window deluxe bus with mohair headliner and 3 reupholstered original seats. rebuilt 36 hp, rebuilt transaxle. new tires, paint, brakes, suspension, steering. Need money to restore 1958 binz. Bus in langley. red and white, pressed bumpers with deluxe trim front and rear.
call or email for pics and more info. 604-538-5615
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Ok I will Bite,
How much?
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This bus is beautiful!
Stephan
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Looks like the guy on 192 st and 32nd.
how much bondo was used to cover up the rust this time?
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$45000
thesamba ad (http://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=225428)
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Nice bus. But 45,000.Wow.I think people really are getting greedy.I watch the samba all the time.I notice that the people that are trying to sell these cars on there for insane amounts seem to have trouble selling them. I wonder why. Maybe because it is a volkswagen!
It's not a 50 merc or a 29 ford. No it's a vw. I know that they are getting harder to find but c'mon people. The funny thing is that I see 50,000 dollar vws on the samba for 3 or 4 months then ebay, then buysell magazines. I guess if you are in no hurry to sell keep the price high.
Not trying to rag on this guy. I just know that none of us can afford this bus.So why not .There's my two bits.
Aaron
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For 45 Large, I except to get an antenna
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for those interested I am now upping the price on my 70 westy that does not run and needs some cleaning and minor bodywork but includes a new antenna for $32,000 FIRM.
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Ever since that 66 campmobile went for $99 000. at berrets people are really freakin out! It's like buyin a house on the coast... stooooooopid! I realize now that split screens are a bigger game these days and maybe when I make more money (and sell a lung), I could have one. Not to say there isn't still deals out there, for sure but the 23 window dream is in the same garbage can as my dream of winning the PGA (I've never golfed or driven a split window bus). :lol:
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One thing I deleted from my add was he is expensive. I should have left it in.
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It works out to 38,000 USD. Find me a fully restored early bumper 23 window on the Samba for that or less than that. We may not like it but our Volkswagens (roughly only 4300 58 Samba's produced worldwide) are getting rare and very sought after even by mainstream collectors. It may seem greedy, but they are going for those kind of prices, so is it greedy if we ask them. About ten years ago Autoweek, and one other major publication rated the 23 window microbus one of the top ten vehicles to invest in (not one of the top ten Volkswagens....one of the top ten vehicles to invest in). I know it kind of sucks that unless we find one on a farm we'll probably never own one, but it's good that it can actually be profitable to restore one, as with a lot of cars you can't even get back the $$ you put into them.
We love Volkswagens :wub: , and we love the people that have come into our lives because of such a car :) . Please be good to each other. We are all in this together.
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I would restore it myself. One of the benefits of doing everything yourself is not having to be a millionare to drive an old vw
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On a side note , You talk to your Girlfriend yet... My daughter is getting excited about maybe owning a reasonably priced Vert....
What aboutr that Heb for $99,000.00
You can thank the Samba for all those prices.... :angry:
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I'm pretty sure I know some guys that have that much into thier Bugs. Hell , there is a lot of guys that have more than that into thier motorcycles. It's a different world out there. :(
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You can thank the Samba for all those prices.... :angry:
don't forget to thank barret-jackson as well, thanks to barret and the clone 69 z-28 that went for huge cash, every fruitcake with a 67 vinyl top bullet hole ridden camaro with a flintstone floor is worth big bucks ! sorry just my 2 cents
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The girlfriend said hold off until I have the 56 in my driveway. As far as the car being up for sale. I would like the car to be looked over when I am actually ready to sell it. Which will be in a week or so.
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The girlfriend said hold off until I have the 56 in my driveway. As far as the car being up for sale. I would like the car to be looked over when I am actually ready to sell it. Which will be in a week or so.
Glad I could Hi-jack this thread and also.... You don't wanna make me cry do ya... :(
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It nice to see that some people get paid for the hard work and time that they put into there rides, but the ones that over price there stuff like that... make it hard for those that just want to drive an old car and keep it running. If we don't keep our hobbies in perspective things will end up like muscle cars and hotrods where the only ones that can afford it are the people that are over the hill ( no offense to anyone over 50 you guys just seem to be better that us young guys). When vehicles sell for that kind of money it bumps up the price of everything related to them. :unsure:
Just my opinion
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Listen to you hens cluck-clucking away.
TheSamba classifieds is not to blame for the state of the market. Nor is any other online site. That's just what people would like to get for their cars. We know cars are worth what the market will bear. The woman who bought the Type 2 at Barrett-Jackson might have been off her rocker, but the sale went through. So in the truest sense of the word, that vehicle was worth that price, because someone actually paid it. We're living in a world where '57 Bel Airs can fetch $75,000 or more, and where crappy 50's east-Van bungalows go for half a mill. $45K for this Bus is outrageous only if the seller can't ever get that price, and who among us is sure that won't happen? It's a seller's market for earlier VW's and will be for the forseeable future.
True story: I had a guy e-mail me the other day asking if I knew where he could buy (and I'm quoting here) "a museum quality, totally correct 1958 Karmann Ghia Cabriolet. The most important element is that the car is in as completely original condition as is possible."
Now that's a tall order, but if he's actually able to find and buy one, and pays a premium for the quality car he's suggesting, he may single-handedly change the market value.
I believe all it would take for this Bus to sell at that asking price is for some rich broker's wife to decide that she really wants this funky old "Hippy Bus", and demands that hubby buys it for her. Let's face it, VWs are still a bargain compared to almost any other classic car. They're just now starting to catch up with the market, whether we like it (or can afford it) or not.
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I'll make you cry like a little school girl
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This a pretty touchy subject by the sounds of it.
I need to go and find a 23 and restore it. I found one in surrey 2 years ago and it sold for 2000 bucks. Maybe it is time to find another
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I think Jason has spent too much time in the Airspeed closet ;)
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45.000 is a fair price if it is in absolute mint condition .Not for one carved out of bondo. But again that is my opinion. A car is worth what someone will pay. Have you seen what people are getting for 60's and70's mopar with a hemi or even factory b-block 383 or the 440
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I have to also add that 2 1/2 years ago I saw a regular van getting the full on treatment from a donor 23 window and once done it will be a 23 window ringer, .... The guy bought the roof clip and panels from Mikes autowrecking in Langley, could it be the same van??????? I hope this one forsale is the original......... I for one don't think it is right to graft in other parts to sell as an original to unsuspecting buyers.
Only a few people know the story on this one.
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You can thank the Samba for all those prices.... :angry:
wow. i remember when I said the exact same thing a few years ago on this site. i beleive your respose was "theres an ass for every seat" and much flaming about how dare anyone talk about the almighty Samba like that.
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I'm kinda with Dan on this one. Just last month we were talking about Kirins "what's it worth comments" As we all said. It is worth what someone will pay for it. If this gets that (IMHO) ridiculous price for his bus......good on him. If Shane got $30g for his DC we would all be saying atta boy. Can't change your argument half way through.....again IMHO
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I can't believe how some of the older women on this site are so quick to spread rumors. I'll bet if it was their vehicle for sale they would be really bent out of shape if someone who had not performed an indepth inspection of it started slamming it or their work. Just because it's out of their league doesn't mean there might not be someone whose checkbook has the kahones and is really interested in something like this. Why do they need to poison someone else's deal? If you have to vent there's a place called "the lounge"
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You can thank the Samba for all those prices.... :angry:
wow. i remember when I said the exact same thing a few years ago on this site. i beleive your respose was "theres an ass for every seat" and much flaming about how dare anyone talk about the almighty Samba like that.
There still is an ass for everyseat Dan.... ;) OK here you go bud....
YOU WERE RIGHT :wub:
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I never said his price was too much or that his bus was shit...All I said was you can thank Samba nd the Internet for all vehicle prices...
It is the way of the world... ;)
And if anyone wants to step up and give me 30,000 for the DC It will be washed and waiting :P
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I have done work on this bus a long time ago and to me it was pretty clean. The owner Ross is a pretty decent guy too. To say the price is high is not fair without seeing it. There are people who pay big money for beetles (even on the airspeed site) and they are dime a dozen. Just my 2 cents.
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You can thank the Samba for all those prices.... :angry:
wow. i remember when I said the exact same thing a few years ago on this site. i beleive your respose was "theres an ass for every seat" and much flaming about how dare anyone talk about the almighty Samba like that.
There still is an ass for everyseat Dan.... ;) OK here you go bud....
YOU WERE RIGHT :wub:
just keeping you honest!! :D
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The previous owner of this bus got in way over his head, many years ago. The shop he had working on it logged something like $20,000 worth of labour into this bus even before painting the outside and the PO couldn't afford to pay the bill. The bus is an original 23 as I remember the very complete deluxe interior that came with it when Ross picked it up. If anyone is truly interested in knowing because of a genuine interest in the bus I'm sure Ross would confirm it with the #'s. Anyone ever seen firsthand the kind of restoration work Ross does? All hardware is cad plated Everything on this bus is new or well restored wich puts it into the ballpark of the very nicely restored busses on the Samba. This bus is detailed inside, outside and underneath. We know Ross personally, and we think he is a great guy. We have known this bus since Ross picked it up back in the 90's and have watched it being built up over the years. We couldn't afford it either, but acknowledge this is a very nicely detailed bus, and unfortunately appropriatley priced.
The Samba isn't really responsible for these high prices. Everett Barnes Has created an amazing platform for people to network parts, cars, and information. The internet in general, but the expansion of all media, has enabled a much bigger and intense sellers market as demand is greater with the increased buying audience (especially the buyers overseas where the dollar is much stronger). Cars in general accross the board are now seeing unprecedented increases because of the unique buying community created by the internet and media. Our world is rapidly changing folks. My advice is embrace it (might as well..it aint changin), and if you can, use it to your advantage. With the cost of living so high we personally couldn't afford this hobby if it wasn't profitable in some way. Just our 10 cents. B)
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so that means im asking a reasonable price than at $32000, cool!
good luck to all with selling there stuff!
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You can thank the Samba for all those prices.... :angry:
wow. i remember when I said the exact same thing a few years ago on this site. i beleive your respose was "theres an ass for every seat" and much flaming about how dare anyone talk about the almighty Samba like that.
There still is an ass for everyseat Dan.... ;) OK here you go bud....
YOU WERE RIGHT :wub:
just keeping you honest!! :D
You know I love you and your skin tight pants :wub:
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Economics 101. "supply vs. demand". A couple more 70 Westys than 58 Samba's. But if you had your 70 Westy restored there is huge demand for early campers in the UK and Japan, and I'll bet you could get big dollars for your bus. It is sad to see so many nice VW's going overseas, but there's a reason why the Samba is being converged upon by people from the UK. Their money is so much stronger (so they can afford these higher prices), and they have a huge demand for early busses and no supply (theirs are all rotten...more so than ours).
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If a Lime green dodge can crest one million a bus can be 45 thou!
PS:My 59 single cab is avail for 31,999
needs work!
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That sound was John Muir rolling in his grave...
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i always get a good laugh when folks blame thesamba.com for the inflated prices of acvw's.
i can think of a few guys on this site that have as much money or more invested in their type 1's. do we bust their balls and call them out because of it? they own beautifull cars, but did they pay that much for them because of thesamba.com?
no.
they pay for what they want and they pay for what they get.
if dude wants to advertise his 23 window '58 deluxe for $45g's, so be it. if someone wants to pay that kind of money for it, so be it. if you want to spend that kind of money on your acvw, that's your choice. you earned the green, so you get to spend it.
jason and vwboop said it best. changing economy & supply and demand.
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Silas ,
Guys may have a ton of money into thier type 1's
But who is selling thier type 1 for $45 grand on here???
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Silas ,
Guys may have a ton of money into thier type 1's
But who is selling thier type 1 for $45 grand on here???
i never said that anyone on here was selling their type 1 for $45g's.
i said that there are guys who have as much or more invested in their type 1. and it sounds like this guy has close to that much invested in his 58 deluxe.
anyone who invests that amount of money in something would definately want that money and hopefully more back.
also, anyone that wants to invest in, or sell, their vehicle for that money, well, that's their business.
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apparently the guy that owns this car has been offered 68k by Jesse james
nice car though
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I love that car. I'd sell an arm for that.
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apparently the guy that owns this car has been offered 68k by Jesse james
nice car though
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Anybody Know what paint code this is??????????
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Amazing how much attention my ad generated. anybody who wants to see how little bondo is in the bus came come by and see it on the hoist. I restore vehicles for a living so come tell me to my face how I restore cars. I just paid $4500 Us for a banged up Binz. is my original 58 with new nose, floors, belly pans, and interior worth $45,000 CDN/?only time will tell. Most of you obviously have not restore a 23 window bus or you would know how much time and money is involved. I want to meet those tyhat call my work bondo and then I'll put a magnet to their pride and joy.
58binz
58 single
58 panel
58 deluxe
58 dd panel
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Don't you guys think its a little unfair to be crapping all over this guys thread. If you can't afford 45,000 then this car isn't for you, simple. Just because you can't afford this doesn't mean that you can start jumping all over it.
As far as the false stuff about the bondo and the grafting, I know this bus and I know it has almost no bondo and is an original 23 Window, not some graft job. Ross has restored Datsun Roadsters for years to a very high calibre of restoration and Split Buses, especially 58s are his personal passion. Much like his Roadsters, all body work done on this car is done at the metal, almost no bondo goes into his cars.
If you guys are interested give him a call, I'm sure he'd love to show you the bus and chew the fat, and you can judge for yourself the quality of his restorations. Not all of his cars get a price this high, but a vehicle with this much passion and work put into, plus a market that seems willing to bear higher prices for 23 Windows, allow him to put it up for this much. Let the market determine its value, not a bunch of whiney ass poor forum readers who are quick to jump all over anything that changes their VW status quo.
Times are changing, VWs aren't worthless shite-boxes anymore.
Brandon
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I think only two people had a bondo statement me and billyisgreat he was curious if this was the hack up bondo wagon that he new of. We can assume now that it is not. As for me I said a mint one is worth that, one carved out of bondo is not. I did not say yours was or wasn't . I've bin restoring cars for over 20 years bring over your magnet. But don't forget magnets don't stick to lead either :P . No one crapped on this tread but these what it worth debates always get out of hand :lol:
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VWs are worthless shite-boxes
Brandon
couldn't have said it better myself
:lol:
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Rustybus - I asked him directly and he said it was a custom color.
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Thanks for the info nivag