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My Never Ending Project
« on: November 25, 2003, 06:13:10 PM »
B) I bought my beetle when I was 16 I 'm 25 now, drove it for the first 2 years & 1 winter w/o heater. In Williams Lake, its cooled up there! Then I caught the bug, started with a simple idea to re-do the engine. Now 7 years after the first bolt turned, the pan is still off, and I'm moving to switzerland. Every Bug I see makes me want to finish mine. I'm planning to build it for beetle cup racing in europe and after showing it off at a couple of shows here, ship it over to my new home.
I want a clean look no frills just a whole lot of hidden get- up and go, and one to make a porsche driver drule as I race him through some bendy roads, Like we have here through  the canyon. I bought most of my parts through Geoff when he was still at C.I.P. and now I need to find a way to work on it long distance maybe once a year or so.  I'll post some pics when I can get to a scanner.  

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« Reply #1 on: January 30, 2004, 04:32:59 PM »
I got you beat on that one s3racing!

Bought my Ghia in 1983, had it stripped at REDI-Strip metals.
Then had some body work done (Rustoration) but it's still up on blocks
bare metal and all. Totally stripped, no suspension, electrical, nothing....

How's that for an ongoing project? - 21years and still counting  ;)
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« Reply #2 on: January 30, 2004, 04:38:23 PM »
Geez guys - I thought I was bad!

CHEECH

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« Reply #3 on: March 05, 2004, 10:40:02 AM »
Hey Art,

You started that ghia when Cale was still on the tit :o  :lol:  

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Re: My Never Ending Project
« Reply #4 on: January 26, 2014, 10:09:48 AM »
Ok now I'm 35 and trying to pick up this project again. Was once in the past 10 years in a shop for drivers heater channel replacement plus some other small metal repairs.
Now to go over the whole concept, and start again!!

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Re: My Never Ending Project
« Reply #5 on: April 15, 2014, 01:26:03 PM »
A few pictures of my car as it looks right now. Stored at my Brothers.

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Re: My Never Ending Project
« Reply #6 on: April 15, 2014, 01:27:04 PM »
Pictures

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« Reply #7 on: April 15, 2014, 01:27:43 PM »
More pictures

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Re: My Never Ending Project
« Reply #8 on: August 20, 2014, 04:20:24 AM »
Just a quick update
I ordered the 915/61 from Nineapart last week with a set of boxster wheels 17 *7 fronts 17 * 8.5 rears and the boxster calipers for the kit that I ordered from Vdub engineering the week before.

 I am right now trying to figuring out the rear suspension setup, not to sure yet what's going to happen there yet. Stiffer and lower for sure.

Talked to Geoff about the pan build and Russ about powder coating. Great bunch of guys and very helpful.

On the way now aswell are the 915 conversion parts from Bott Fahrzeug Technik in Germany including new nose cone, mounts and 5 speed shifter.

Wish I could be doing some of the work myself, but at least it's going to start coming together now.
I post a couple pictures if what's on the way. Tonight!

René

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Re: My Never Ending Project
« Reply #9 on: August 20, 2014, 01:51:44 PM »
Was on the phone with Atom Werk engineering tonight :-)

I took the plunge and ordered the "deluxe assembled set"
2" rear drop plates with needle bearings in translucent red. He said about a 6 week delivery time as they are custom made per application. Going to 21 ¾" length bars. Not sure about the shocks yet.
I hope it's a worth while buy!!
Mixed emotions on this one.

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Re: My Never Ending Project
« Reply #10 on: August 20, 2014, 07:14:05 PM »
Sorry I didn't get back to you regarding the setup on my car. You PM'd me while I was away with limited internet, and then I returned to GCVW craziness! (landed at 10am, grabbed my car and drove right to the AVR open house).

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Re: My Never Ending Project
« Reply #11 on: August 21, 2014, 01:51:56 PM »
No big deal Dave Thanks for all the great advice so far.

Here as i said are a couple pictures of whats on the way for my project.

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Re: My Never Ending Project
« Reply #12 on: August 21, 2014, 01:54:49 PM »
Wheels and Brakes off this poor car :-)

This is how they look off the car
 17 • 7 fronts and 17 • 8.5 rear with used rubber for keeping the car off the ground. until i get fresh rubber on them When the car is ready to hit the road.

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« Reply #13 on: September 30, 2014, 01:01:24 PM »
:-) trany conversion parts have arrived from Bott fahrzeug technik aka bug@fivespeed
Now the work on the trany finally can get started.

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Re: My Never Ending Project
« Reply #14 on: October 07, 2014, 01:20:15 PM »
A couple of the used Wheels need some refinishing, when i worked at ford in W.L. I worked with Nu-Brite quite often. In Surrey if I remember right. But I think I'll leave the wheel repairs as one of the last details. Before I have new rubber installed on them.
Tire sizes are pritty solid with 215/35r17 front
245/35r17 rears. Factory sizes are smaller on the front but a size wider on the rear. But I think this will be a good fit. And will reduce the overall ride Hight by about sn inch as well.

Now waiting that the trany will be finished so I can get the car to Geoff, for the fab. Work and pan assembly.

Can't wait to be able to post some real progress pictures. And what's happening.

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Re: My Never Ending Project
« Reply #15 on: October 16, 2014, 01:36:18 PM »
K I got a complicated ? That I haven't found a real straight forward answer to here or elsewhere yet. I'm running a 915/61 transaxle from a 78 911. And boxster front and rear brakes. Well rear is 944 with boxster calipers. I'm trying to figure out which drive axles I can use. The width of the trans from what I've found the width of the trans are the same and the stub axles from the 944 will fit to my hubs. The flanges from the trans should be 108mm 6 bolt as are those from the 944. I think the 944 axles should work. But I don't want to order them from the wrecker on a gamble. I think I just need to avoid the axles from the late models with the aluminum control arms as the track is supposed to be longer and so the axles as well. Has anyone researched before to get stronger axles? Last option is to wait and measure. And then order custom length axles from Sway a way. Using 930 CV's. Any help would be great to shed somemore light on this area of my build.

Thanks René

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« Reply #16 on: October 17, 2014, 03:23:52 AM »
A 944 CV joint is 100mm, so you should check your gearbox's flange's dia.  100mm CVs is all anyone needs in a VW.  I've seen 9 second drag cars go forever on them.

The stock 944 axles will be way too long.  Even though early 944 TAs are essentially the same as Beetle, they are spaced wider because the 944 body is a lot wider.  This means the axles are really long.
 
You don't need to custom order axles.  When you buy sway-a-way axles, they make all of their axles with really long splines.  All you need to do is chuck them in the lathe and shorten them to what you need.  Plenty of splines left when you do that.

Don't discount the stock Beetle axles.  If they're the right length and the splines work with the CVs needed to fit your flanges, use them.  Stock IRS axles are not the weaklings like stock swing axles are.

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Re: My Never Ending Project
« Reply #17 on: October 17, 2014, 04:30:50 AM »
Cool thanks Bruce,

I was wrong the 915 output flanges are 100mm 6 bolt so compatible with the 944 CV's. So I can use the 944 CV's inside and outside and the 944 Stub axles will also fit for what I have. The splines are the same as the t1 from what i remember in my reading. so I can combine the 944 CV's with the IRS beetle axles, to get what i need. Worst case i need to get the Sway a way axles. but thats no big deal the engine won't go in for a bit yet anyways. So I have time to get that combo right. My worry was more the ability I guess for the IRS axles to handle the power that The motor will be putting through them. goal is min. 200Bhp if i go Subi then its closer to 265 - 300 hp.

Thanks Bruce for the help.

Cheers René

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Re: My Never Ending Project
« Reply #18 on: October 18, 2014, 03:50:53 AM »
Stock IRS axles don't break.  If they fit, use them.

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« Reply #19 on: November 03, 2014, 10:52:35 AM »
Cool Spring plates are here looking good. Picture is a little blurry but :-) me is happy. Shop date is creeping up on me so time to start organizing all the parts together. and lighting some fires under some peoplers pants so the rest of the parts arrive in time for assembly and Powder coating.

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« Reply #20 on: November 06, 2014, 02:33:42 AM »
944 axles arrived. The CV's need to be repacked and the boots changed. Maybe a powder coat on the axles might make sense when i have them apart.
 

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Re: My Never Ending Project
« Reply #21 on: December 08, 2014, 03:22:21 AM »
Still waiting for my brake parts to arrive. Getting impatient :-(

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Re: My Never Ending Project
« Reply #22 on: January 22, 2015, 01:07:14 PM »
Adam from AMT Machining is now doing the Brake upgrade parts for me. He's is wondering about the spindle Orientation. I hope I got this right. Please Correct me if I'm wrong.

This is the  Bottom of the spindle ( to the ground )



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This is the Top side of the spindle

Ok on this picture Because of brake lines etc. it would be best if we can place the Calliper on the other side Inboard side of the car instead of on in this picture to the front of the Car. This picture would be of the Drivers side Spindle.

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« Reply #23 on: January 22, 2015, 01:09:32 PM »
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Do I need to weld the Speedo hole if im not using it? Or tap it and thread in a plug. So grease doesn't leak out. I am using the speedo signal from the 915/61 which have an electronic output. Whats the word.

René

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« Reply #24 on: January 22, 2015, 01:25:47 PM »
I didn't use my speedo hole for 4+ years, including all the gravel and winter rallies. I simply filled the hole with grease to keep water and dirt out. I just recently put a speedo cable in to run a different style sensor for the rally computer. Simply pushed an old cable through backwards to clean out the grease/dirt, and ran a new cable in.

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« Reply #25 on: January 22, 2015, 01:57:24 PM »
Dave thanks,

I just wrote Adam that he should tap a thread into it so we can put a bolt with lock tight in it to prevent any dirt and grease from getting in there. How does my directions for the Spindle Orientation look to you? I know you have a Super but maybe you can confirm or correct that from the picture orientation thanks for any help.

Cheers René



Cool Geoff Just wrote me back I think that clears those issues up. Thanks Dave For your Help. I'll Post some pictures when the complete package is together.

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« Reply #26 on: January 22, 2015, 11:03:47 PM »
I think we are staying with the Callipers in that position. So we don't have to space the callipers away from the disc and lose pad contact. We tried them in the factory position that created a few clearancing issues and the need for ¼" out spacing for the mounting etc.

The rear shouldn't have any issues in that regards.

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« Reply #27 on: January 30, 2015, 11:28:06 PM »
Adam from AMT Machining just finished up my brake conversion :-)

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« Reply #28 on: January 30, 2015, 11:29:04 PM »
Drivers side

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« Reply #29 on: January 30, 2015, 11:54:45 PM »
Tell Adam I said hi when you pick them up.

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