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Title: 1970 class11 look
Post by: purple turd on August 26, 2013, 05:37:27 PM

So I have 70 bug bodylifted running 235 tires all around. The brakes seemed a bit to hard so I replaced everything....shoes, wheel cylinders, springs, drums, lines, hoses, master cyl. It seems to take way too much force to stop. Normal...?

Title: Re: 1970 class11 look
Post by: bwaz on August 26, 2013, 08:21:16 PM

235 tires will take a lot more effort to stop for sure!

Title: Re: 1970 class11 look
Post by: purple turd on August 26, 2013, 09:26:30 PM

I may try a disc conversion if I can find a reasonably priced kit thats not junk.  I used napa shoes so maybe another brand of friction

Title: Re: 1970 class11 look
Post by: purple turd on August 28, 2013, 08:01:39 PM

Not reallysure if anyone cares but after replacing pretty well a complete brake system on my beetle it still did notstop the way it should. 4 wheel drums and probably too heavy. I started looking into discs. Theres not much out there except empi ($200) or the high end stuff ($1400) just for fronts. Ive used empi parts before and seen the absolute crap that is produced.you should have seen the body lift I threw in the steel bin. (The scrap guys didnt even want it). Anywaysorry for the empibashing. I installed the $200 empi disc brake kit with cast caliper mounts, rotors, pads, calipers and hardware. It took just over an hour.everything fit. I havent read the instructions yet. The car stops well and finally it doesnt take a body builder to push the brake pedal. The good parts...I can put it back to stock.there was not a single part missing, nor did I have to modify anything on the car. It stops. The bad...not a fricken thing except I now have a  bunch of leftover new drum brake parts.

Title: Re: 1970 class11 look
Post by: bwaz on August 28, 2013, 10:27:07 PM

Did you put in a new master cylinder too?

Title: Re: 1970 class11 look
Post by: purple turd on August 29, 2013, 07:24:39 AM

New master was put in a week ago. Most after market listings show the same master for disc or drum. I used a raybestos one.

Title: Re: 1970 class11 look
Post by: purple turd on August 29, 2013, 01:58:40 PM

anyone ever done the front to rear wheel cylinder swap?

Title: Re: 1970 class11 look
Post by: purple turd on September 03, 2013, 03:53:06 PM

Swapped front wheel cyls to rear.stops even better now but pedal travel would scare someone who hasnt been warned. Anyone have any suggestions?

Title: Re: 1970 class11 look
Post by: Hansk on September 04, 2013, 08:36:38 AM

I've found that drums seem to take time to seat in and pedal feel and pressure improve with time.

Title: Re: 1970 class11 look
Post by: purple turd on September 04, 2013, 07:13:43 PM

I hope so. My 4 wheel drum buggy brakes are right at the top even when theyre out of adjustment. The disc drum bug has about 3 inches before they do much. Still not pedal on the firewall just so much different from the other car. The beetle weighs 1900lbs ...the buggy weighs 1375