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Offline Bianca

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I put the distributor shaft in backwards :'(
« on: September 10, 2010, 09:36:05 PM »
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my dyslexia rears it's ugly head at the MOST inopportune times: in spite of paying special attention to ensure the bigger half of the shaft was facing the correct direction, I still managed to get it exactly 180 degrees reversed.
I just rebuilt the engine (I had the cracked case issue - big huge thanks to vwguy for all the help!!). so I had the case apart to line up the shaft in the first place.
now my question is: is there a somewhat easy/simple/less-pain-than-disassembling-the-whole-engine way to flip that sucker around? my first thought was to just take the bottom piece of the distributor (that mates with the shaft - ha ha "mates with the shaft")  and flip it, but I can't get the pin out that holds it on. so here I am. ready to hang myself.
any suggestions (besides hanging myself) are greatly appreciated!!

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Re: I put the distributor shaft in backwards :'(
« Reply #1 on: September 10, 2010, 10:15:24 PM »
mine is 180 off also , it runs fine.

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Offline vwguy

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Re: I put the distributor shaft in backwards :'(
« Reply #2 on: September 11, 2010, 08:55:20 PM »
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Offline Bianca

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Re: I put the distributor shaft in backwards :'(
« Reply #3 on: September 13, 2010, 03:30:41 PM »
can I just move the leads over 2 spots on the cap? so it would fire 3-2-1-4 instead of 1-4-3-2?
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Re: I put the distributor shaft in backwards :'(
« Reply #4 on: September 13, 2010, 04:52:50 PM »
no, leave your cap the way it was, it will only go on one way, it will be rotated 180 degrees but the everything else is the same.



Installing a 009 (or any) Distributor
The first thing we need to do is put the engine in a firing position for #1 cylinder. You are either in one of two situations; your engine runs, and you need/want to replace it, or your engine does not have a distributor installed and you need to put one in.

We'll start with an engine that does not have a distributor in it. Take the valve cover off the right side of the engine, which is the #1 and #2 side. # 1 is the cylinder on the right, towards the front of the car (on the flywheel end). Rotate the engine clockwise by hand until you see the exhaust valve open up. Continue rotating until you see the intake valve open, then close. NOW YOU ARE ON THE COMPRESSION STROKE. Look at your pulley, and continue rotating until the pulley notch is straight up, OR until the pulley's woodruff key is in the 9 o'clock position. Now you are at TDC for #1, which is where you need to be to procede. If your engine already runs, you can simply remove the distributor cap, and rotate the engine until the rotor is pointing at the plug wire (in the cap) that runs to cylinder #1. Double check your pulley, and it should be notch up, or key at 9 o'clock, as in the previous description. You are now at TDC for #1.

*You can not just line up the pulley and go from there, because the VW engine is a 4 stroke engine, and the pistons come up TWICE for every firing stroke. So, if the notch is up, you could be at TDC for #1, but you could also be at TDC for #3! Be sure you have it right.*

Remove the distributor and distributor clamp. Slide the distributor clamp onto your new distributor. Now, install the distributor o-ring onto the distributor (if you put the o-ring on before the clamp, you will find out why I'm telling you to put the clamp on first! :-) )

Look into the distributor hole in the engine, and see how the drive notch is lined up. This lets you get the new distributor's drive close as you put it in. Oil up the distributor shaft and o-ring area (you don't want to tear the o-ring up). Put it in. It may take some light tapping on the rim of the distributor to get the o-ring started into the case. Slide it all the way down, and it should bottom out on the clamp. If it does not, the drive gear is not properly engauged. You need to rotate the rotor back and forth while GENTLY pushing the distributor down. When you find the slot, it will drop the rest of the way.

The rotor SHOULD be pointing to the little notch in the distributor body, which is the marking for #1 cylinder firing position. If it isn't, you are either NOT at TDC for #1, or your distributor drive pinion is indexed wrong, and needs to be removed and rotated to the proper position.

If you are re-using your distributor cap, CHECK that the rotor is aiming towards the #1 plug wire (remember, we are at #1 TDC). If not, remove the wires from the cap, and rotate them to the proper position, so that #1 is now the wire the rotor is aiming at.

Time the engine as normal, either static or running. 009s can be at 30 degrees BTDC at 3500 RPMs or higher, OR at about 5 degrees BTDC at idle, they are equivalent. Hope this helps!

So - that's it! Let me know if this article has been a help you…and, of course, when you decide to order, please consider Aircooled.Net!

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Re: I put the distributor shaft in backwards :'(
« Reply #5 on: September 13, 2010, 04:59:14 PM »
I think that should help you

Offline Bianca

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Re: I put the distributor shaft in backwards :'(
« Reply #6 on: September 14, 2010, 10:51:31 AM »
my bad, I was using the wrong terminology. I have the drive pinion indexed wrong (thanks Chris for giving me the proper terms). I'm wondering if re-routing the spark plug wires will work. when I'm at TDC for cyl #1 the rotor in the distributor is pointing at #3. so I'm thinking I can move the wire for #1 to #3, and the rest can follow suit.
ha! I found someone else with the exact same problem (but no solution or end-result):

http://www.brenthughes.com/VW/68beetlejournal/68beetleJE10/68beetleJE10.html

at least I'm not the only one who's done this...
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Re: I put the distributor shaft in backwards :'(
« Reply #7 on: September 14, 2010, 02:39:46 PM »
Go ahead and move the wires, thousands are running like that, the distributor doesn't care where it is located as long as there is room to turn it enough for timing. But do put a mark on the distributor body for #1 with a sharpie or something to make valve adjustments simple later as the old one doesn't count now.
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Offline Bianca

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Re: I put the distributor shaft in backwards :'(
« Reply #8 on: September 14, 2010, 02:45:05 PM »
that's what I wanted to hear!
I'll give it a shot and see how she flies.

Thank you!!
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Re: I put the distributor shaft in backwards :'(
« Reply #9 on: October 30, 2010, 12:07:46 PM »
you can also pull the dist drive shaft out carefully and turn it.... just be careful of the shims underneath. there is a dist drive puller sold at cip, but a piece of wood dowel has worked in the past for me :)